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This is another serious warning in health concern for all my fellow magicians:

As absurd as this may sound to some of you, there is a much greater risk in using your microwave ovens than you initially thought. I am extremely health conscious, and my instincts just told me for some strange reason that using short wavelength electromagnetic waves to "cook" my food was just not natural and it would somehow affect my health, and so i decided to do some research on it. As of July 2007, I vow to never intentionally eat microwaved food, whether it be dangerous or not. Personally, I don't mind spending a little extra time and effort cooking my food the way humans have been cooking since Neanderthal times, using FIRE. Inconvenient, but it gives me peace of mind, so now every time i cook i use the stove or convection oven. If you don't know how to cook, it is very easy, just ask someone.

Think about it on the most basic level: you put your food in this radiator, and it comes out heated using no source of heat whatsoever. Is it magic? How does it work? People often don't question how things work until they stop working. In this case, if the microwave did stop working, people would just buy another microwave, and so this problem is rarely addressed, even by governments as it serves as a continuing source of revenue. Maybe people just don't care. Well i do.

Anyways if you want to read about the various effects of microwave ovens, I strongly suggest you read this article. By the way i always check the reliability of my sources with anything (I recommend you do the same) and this seems fairly reliable and free of "corrupt science", although theres still a possibility it is bias:

http://www.health-science.com/microwave_hazards.html

For the much more paranoid and skeptical people, here is an article on psycho telemetric influence, some other info related to microwaves. I live in Australia, and so i tried to find an article most suited to the UK. It seems a bit unusual though, as it advertises a company that sells microwave detecting equipment at the end of the article, nothing really bias there There are many more articles of this kind with more in depth information for the interested reader, and remember, its currently only a conspiracy:

http://www.ivanfraser.com/articles/conspiracies/mw_mindcontrol.html

For the extremely paranoid people here is a helpful link to a guide on how to reduce psycho telemetric influence, it is worth reading:

http://montalk.net/conspiracy/55/how-to-block-microwave-mind-programming-signals

For further reading simply do a Google search on the particular area of interest and the rest will suffice.

Take care everyone

I don't own a television (the phenominal waster of time) or a microwave oven.

Now I know why I don't have a microwave oven...

Mike.

If I scared myself half to death with every bit of anti this or that propaganda on the internet I'd never leave my house I've been using a microwave for years and never had any adverse effects from it (other than the morning after a microwavable curry but thats another story )

It is a completely personal decision, by all means keep using the microwave if you wish I genuinely like to look out for other people that is all. I am at optimum health and i will never allow any possible hindrance, I want to live a quality and long life, and i need to have my sweet baby's mama have the healthiest children possible. I studied chemistry, biology and physics, so I guess the jargon has a greater impact on me than it would to laymen, nothing i can help

I'm just about to put my tin foil hat on and sit in my cellar!

The second two links seem rather daft to me, and rather impractical. If you want the underclass' to sit round like vegetables just keep paying them their dole money!

Even the first article contains lines such as...
"the "sixth sense" every mother has is impossible to argue with."

It's hard to tell whether that line is said with tongue in cheek, but to say it is impossible to argue with seems rather unscientific. And added to that is the fact that it is a website designed to appeal to women, and then sell them products, makes me skeptical of their bias.

Having said that, I'm sure that there is the possibility that microwaves from phones etc could be harmful, and there are studies being carried out on it.
But from skim reading the article (so I may be wrong), it seems that the 'evidence' so far is inonclusive. Yes there have been studies into it, but you can find a study to back many contradictory hypotheses. Remember the big MMR debate. The conclusion you can draw from the article is basically 'we don't know what effect eating microwaved food has on our bodies'.
There is also a lot of irrelevant information on their. Why is it relveant that the nazis invented the microwave? Thats tabloid talk! Along with a lot of bold claims.

This scientific report then states...

"The use of artificial microwave transmissions for subliminal psychological control, a.k.a. "brainwashing", has also been proven."

Are they claiming my microwave in my kitchen is being used to brainwash me? Again, more unsubstantiated, sensationalised claims.

Back to my cellar and my tin foil hat. Just after I've grabbed my microchips!

Michael Jay Wrote:

I don't own a television (the phenominal waster of time) or a microwave oven.

You could combine the two and buy one of those new microwave tv's - they show a whole evenings programs in 7 minutes.

Dont believe every thing you read. People just are paranoid.

IF you are afraid of this kind of stuff... never go to the hosiptal- MRI, X-Rays, and so on.... Also dont go out in public, dont watch TV, dont use cell phones, dont drive a car, dont listen to the radio. I can go on and on....

Michael Jay wrote:I don't own a television (the phenominal waster of time) or a microwave oven.

Mike.

but, Mike, what does all your furniture point at?

rvoice100 wrote:

Michael Jay wrote:I don't own a television (the phenominal waster of time) or a microwave oven.

Mike.

but, Mike, what does all your furniture point at?

I can answer that, not having a television or microwave myself.
The furniture points to the centre of the room.

but, then what do you have to talk about with your families ha,

Yep - center of the room! But, just take a look at anyone's living room and you'll find that furniture always points toward the room's center, with an exception here and there.

dat8962 wrote:Michael Jay Wrote:

I don't own a television (the phenominal waster of time) or a microwave oven.

You could combine the two and buy one of those new microwave tv's - they show a whole evenings programs in 7 minutes.

Well, I'm going to have to get me one of those.

Personally, I find nuked food just doesn't taste all that good. Stuff that should be crunchy comes out soggy and soft (now there's one for inuendo bingo). Now that's just nasty.

No, I'll take a conventional oven, or a toaster oven, over a microwave any day. The only thing that I find a microwave is good for is boiling water and I have a tea pot for that.

Mike.

I too choose not to normally use a microwave for gastronomic reasons rather than anything else, although it is perfectly capable of producing crunchy al dente vegetables if you use it correctly.

I have to say though, that health science article is a load of... er... what our forum robots would change to "(not the best)"!

X_Calibre, you say you check out the reliability of your sources - er, nope! This article has no references my friend! It is totally unscientific! It says things like "an experiment in Russia in the 70s concluded this..." - do you know how many experiments are carried out that are a load of tosh?! In order to be reputable things need to adhere to a strict level of statistical analysing, be peer reviewed etc, and if that was the case here this article wouldn't be on some public sensationalist website, it would be in a proper scientific journal.
Honestly, I don't know where to start... the first two arguments (and you're supposed to start with your strongest) draw on the powerful, irrefutable evidence of... "mother's instinct", and the fact that microwaves are most effective on water molecules which means that yes, even though the bottle might be only warm, the baby milk inside might be very hot. Wow, unheard of stuff... I'm sure you couldn't have been told that by anyone who has used a microwave more than twice

They then go on to shock us with the news that you shouldn't warm up transplant blood with a microwave. Y'think?! Blood is effectively an organ! It is in many senses "alive" and needs to be treated very carefully all the way from donor to patient. You wouldn't put blood in the microwave any more than you would warm up a transplant kidney before the operation in one, or dry off your pet hamster after his bath. The fact that this happened and someone died is only testament to how bl**dy stupid some people can be.

Next, they tell us all the shocking stuff about people exposed to microwaves, and how dangerous they are. Fine. The only thing is, microwaves aren't stored in food. You don't get a dose of microwaves everytime you nuke your oat-so-simple. Putting some poor bu**er in a giant microwave or exposing factory workers to them and seeing how they're affected proves absolutely nothing new.

In terms of microwaves "leaking", I'm exceedingly unconvinced. These are short waves, and will be absorbed by most things. In the same way that you can't get a tan through a window, microwaves will not force their way through the box and come and zap you. Infact, this is precisely why they heat up the food - because they exert their effect on the first substance they come into contact with. If it was the sort of radiation that goes for miles, it would hardly do anything to your food. Think of it like a hose pointing to a net - if you set the hose to high power jet, a thin stream would go right through the net, hardly wetting it, and hitting whatever was behind it forcefully. If you set it to spray, the net would be soaked but much less water would get through.

Besides, even if tiny amounts were to escape, it would be nothing compared to standing next to a concrete building, let alone flying anywhere or having an x-ray.

Finally, in terms of carcinogens, I don't know enough about this to comment heavily but burning food is also carcinogenic, and most people do that far more that cook with the microwave.

Sorry guys, this is grade A scaremongering balony.

Microwaves do not emit radiation. They are MICRO waves not radioactive waves. As far as strength goes, micro waves are below radio waves. Should we shut down all radio stations?

Josh Clarke wrote:Microwaves do not emit radiation. They are MICRO waves not radioactive waves. As far as strength goes, micro waves are below radio waves. Should we shut down all radio stations?

Sorry, I think you're confusing a couple of terms here. Radiation isn't limited to radio waves, and is in fact the term given to moving (usually ionising) waves (Wikipedia)

As for strength, you're right in that Microwaves have a shorter wavelength than radiowaves, which does make it (slightly) safer (I wouldn't touch a radio transmitter ) but it's hard to measure "strength" of a radiowave other than by its wavelength and its power (which is independent of the wavelength)

Thanks for the correction.

On a side note, I don't trust wikipedia. It's just editable opinions that MOST people agree on. It's not fact.