Ten Card Poker Deal by Luke Jermay

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Ten Card Poker Deal by Luke Jermay

Postby Kenneth » Jul 15th, '07, 21:38



I've tried searching for a review for this, but no luck.. anyone have this? Does it take much setup or just 1-2 cards moved. is the only hand you get a 3 pair?

I'm sure theres a review, but I just cant find it

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Postby KingJeux. » Jul 15th, '07, 21:58

it's lame. don't get it. anyone who knows anything about poker will realize the chances of you drawing cards like that 3 times in a row is very minute.

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Postby AndyRegs » Jul 15th, '07, 23:33

The ten card poker deal is actually a classic, and versions can be found in countless sources (darwin ortiz has a version, and it can be found in street magic by paul zennon). I'm sure others will let you know the various other sources. Once you know the secret, you can work countless of variations. I would recommend getting one of the books with it in rather than the download. If you know the very simple secret, the various other handlings will also become apparent.

anyone who knows anything about poker will realize the chances of you drawing cards like that 3 times in a row is very minute.


Isn't that the whole point of the trick, the whole point of magic, doing the impossible?

I would say the effect is anything but lame. Get the zennon book (you can find it for about half the price of the download), and then work your own routine around the principle.

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Postby Kenneth » Jul 16th, '07, 00:35

In luke jeramy's version, theres a variation where the specator selects every one of your cards and his- is this aparent in the book, or easy to work out otherwise? another advantage of getting the download is it's instant, is it a trick that requires much practice?

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Postby AndyRegs » Jul 16th, '07, 07:15

It is a very simple trick, and the principle used is the same in any version. It is by no means original to Luke Jermay. There are many different ways of handling the effect, and also different outcomes.
I am currently working on my own handling of this, as I think it is a great effect, though I am trying to strengthen a certain part of it.
If you are looking for a skill level, then it would be classed as self working.

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Postby David The Cryptic » Jul 16th, '07, 07:24

heres the first review I came across. ITs not mine, I didnt buy the ID.
I have it in one of my books.


Oh and the reviewer isnt that bright. His take on the reactions is just stupid. If he only got so so reactions, that means his performance stank.

[edited by mods. Sorry - we are not allowed to cut and paste reviews from other places.]

Um, both posters are friend of mine and I had permission. And if it helps the poster... I see no problem with it.

But I guess thats out the window.
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Postby Part-Timer » Jul 16th, '07, 10:08

I am not familiar with Luke's version, but there are plenty of other places to get the idea and, as others have said, you can come up with your own routines.

I know that there's at least one five phase version but that sounds a bit long to me. Three phases is enough for my tastes. I played around with different options and came up with:

Phase 1 - Spectator shuffles the ten cards, magician deals.

Phase 2 - Magician shuffles the number of times the spectator requests. Either person can deal, but you do need to know who deals before shuffling.

Phase 3 - Cards laid out in a row and the spectator selects five.

I couldn't think of a fairer ending than that, although it does require a little specator management, which I hadn't got quite right the first time I tried it!

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Postby Charles Calthrop » Jul 16th, '07, 11:47

I've never been a fan of 10 Card Poker Deal routines as they are just too simplistic. I think that anyone who is even the slightest bit poker-savvy will get a pretty good idea what's going on as soon as they see all ten cards laid out. But maybe that's just me. In any case I didn't like the demo video of Jermay's version for lots of reasons.

So, now I've slated it without actually buying it I'll try and balance my karma with two stellar recommendations for anyone who fancies this type of effect.

1. The Power of Poker by John Bannon, published in Dear Mr Fantasy (with lots of great usable effects). Spec chooses all the cards and always gets a full house. You always finish with a straight flush (which may be royal). Self-working(!).

2. Ourobouros by the late Jack Parker, published in the June issue of Genii along with some other excellent effects by Jack. This is based on an effect of John Racherbaumer's. The magician displays a packet of ten court cards (five red and five black). Magi and spec each take a hole card, then take it in turns to take a card from either the top or bottom of the packet (free choice). The spec will always have an excellent hand of at least two pairs, but the magician always has the four....aces?? Only one, very easy 'move'.

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Postby Demitri » Jul 16th, '07, 14:10

I second Charles' recommendations - especially Ourobouros. The ending is such a powerful surprise - it hits really hard.

I think Luke Jermay's version looks pretty solid. I like that it's a bit longer of a routine - and not just a "one hand" style effect. Not that I feel that's a BAD point, but it's certainly nice to have the option of performing either a quick-hit style (like Bannon or Parker's), or a 3-4 phase version like Luke's.

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Postby Beardy » Jul 16th, '07, 19:17

I do like it. And in the final version I let them pick *every* single card. Yes it is a classic, but boy is it a classic!

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Postby David The Cryptic » Jul 16th, '07, 20:20

David The Cryptic wrote:heres the first review I came across. ITs not mine, I didnt buy the ID.
I have it in one of my books.


Oh and the reviewer isnt that bright. His take on the reactions is just stupid. If he only got so so reactions, that means his performance stank.

[edited by mods. Sorry - we are not allowed to cut and paste reviews from other places.]



Um, both posters are friend of mine and I had permission. And if it helps the poster... I see no problem with it.

But I guess thats out the window.
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Postby Charles Calthrop » Jul 17th, '07, 09:20

That's why God...er, Mr Berners Lee gave us hyperlinks.

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