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Postby Bananachek » Jul 17th, '07, 07:25



WorldOfNoReality wrote:This trick kind of is a let-down once you realize how to do it. I add in a little "spice" to it by allowing it to be fully inspectible. 8) Don't have the DVD but I think his way is not fully inspectible.


My God does anyone even know anything about this effect? It is examinable the way they teach it in the Instant Download. (Not a DVD :x)

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Postby WorldOfNoReality » Jul 17th, '07, 07:39

Well I never used this "instant download". I found it on youtube and played with it. As for his DVD, no idea on that either. Yes I do know this trick but I've never used this instant download you're talking about. So I apologize for not knowing this instant download. :x

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Postby seige » Jul 17th, '07, 08:14

Bananachek wrote:My God does anyone even know anything about this effect? It is examinable the way they teach it in the Instant Download. (Not a DVD :x)


Yep. I know a lot about it. I bought it about 3 years ago when it first came out.

Yes, it looks fantastic, but is hardly examinable—even using the method taught—either before or after the effect is performed.

However, if handled correctly, the deck doesn't need to come under close scrutiny or examination. It's a pat on the back to Sam.

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Postby Bananachek » Jul 17th, '07, 08:19

seige wrote:
Bananachek wrote:My God does anyone even know anything about this effect? It is examinable the way they teach it in the Instant Download. (Not a DVD :x)


Yep. I know a lot about it. I bought it about 3 years ago when it first came out.

Yes, it looks fantastic, but is hardly examinable—even using the method taught—either before or after the effect is performed.

However, if handled correctly, the deck doesn't need to come under close scrutiny or examination. It's a pat on the back to Sam.


You would be right, except for the part where you're wrong. Watch the ID again. Pay close attention to the end where he sets the deck down on the table and tells you it's examinable. Then go ahead and watch the instructional video and listen good to the part where he tells you how to make it examinable. It's not difficult. If you watch closely enough in the demo video, you can even catch what he does.

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Postby seige » Jul 17th, '07, 08:22

Hmmmm...

So, at the end, I'm left with a full deck of cards. Of course, silly me.

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Postby WorldOfNoReality » Jul 17th, '07, 08:33

seige wrote:Hmmmm...

So, at the end, I'm left with a full deck of cards. Of course, silly me.


Yep hate it when that happens. Pull out a deck of cards and I'm left with a deck of cards. Ah well...

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Postby Bananachek » Jul 17th, '07, 08:33

seige wrote:Hmmmm...

So, at the end, I'm left with a full deck of cards. Of course, silly me.


You actually believe the audience is going to think to count the cards? Because after I see a trick, that's my first instinct.

You should have thought this through and realized this somewhere within your weeks of dedication to this one trick. :lol:

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Postby seige » Jul 17th, '07, 08:35

Actually, I didn't spend weeks on this one. I bought it, watched it, thought 'what a clever bunny Sam is', and then resigned it to the bottom drawer.

Unfortunately, it doesn't end clean, or examinable—and I'll leave it at that.

However, I am not going to further dirty a kindly posted review thread... and I would suggest out of respect, other members do the same.

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Postby Bananachek » Jul 17th, '07, 08:43

Penguin Reviewer wrote:Pros:
Easy to do
Doesn't require a ton of practice
Everything is FULLY EXAMINABLE at the end
Doesn't have a ton of sleight-of-hand (Unlike others, i.e. Triumph)

Cons:
Isn't examinable before the trick
You have to set it up each time you do it
It's so simple, yet overpriced!

Overall, this is a pretty good trick. If you're interested in it, BUY IT. If not, then grab a sneak-a-peek and be happy.


Penguin Reviewer 2 wrote:I will admit this trick is not the easiest, but after literally 15 minutes of practice I was performing it like Oz!!! If you want a trick that requires no sleight of hand at all, and is simply amazing then go for an out of this world instant download. This is too stunning for the audience to grasp then the killer is it is fully examinable!!


Penguin Reviewer 3 wrote:This is a great trick. For the money, it's a no brainer. I also have the closer and the bite out coin and the stealth pen. I would recomend all of them but this is my favorite. It is fully examinable.


Penguin Reviewer 4 wrote:This is by far the best instant download I've seen at penguin. It looks as if there's a deck switch of some sort of gimmick, but the deck is fully examinable. Buy this now!


They got 97 reviews on the page, shall I continue?

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Postby seige » Jul 17th, '07, 08:46

They got 97 reviews on the page, shall I continue?


No, please don't. You're getting nowhere fast.

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Postby Bananachek » Jul 17th, '07, 08:48

seige wrote:
They got 97 reviews on the page, shall I continue?


No, please don't. You're getting nowhere fast.


Okay. Other than the part where I proved you wrong. Maybe it's not examinable to you because you're not good enough to pull off the last move. Regardless, most people can hand the deck out at the end.

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Postby seige » Jul 17th, '07, 08:50

Oh, Bananachek...

You really don't get it do you?

I am stating that 3/4 of a deck is examinable. However, the DECK isn't examinable.

You really aren't doing yourself any favours here.

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Postby Bananachek » Jul 17th, '07, 08:53

seige wrote:Oh, Bananachek...

You really don't get it do you?

I am stating that 3/4 of a deck is examinable. However, the DECK isn't examinable.

You really aren't doing yourself any favours here.


No, you really don't get it. The point is that you can hand out the "deck" to the audience, for them to find nothing unnatural about it. To them, that's impressive and erases any ideas of a gimmicked deck, which is what makes the trick so great.

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Postby seige » Jul 17th, '07, 08:56

You know what—I'm not going to waste any more of my time on this, as you obviously aren't listening! I think we obviously have differing opinions of what is an examinable deck. So let's just leave it at that.

Also, I do apologise to the original reviewer. I've split the thread to take the nonsense away, and leave the review clean.

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Postby Demitri » Jul 17th, '07, 08:56

I wouldn't say that's 100%, banana... some people will notice a few details after a while. I think it's safe to say the deck can be examined, but you should hurry the examination along a bit.

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