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Hi everybody, I'm searching for a prediction experiment with playing card.

The effect. The mentalist put a single playing card on the table and then ask to say one card name to a spectator: the prediction is correct!

I know Double Think (by Derren) and Crystal Thought.

- what do you think about these two routine?
- instead of mexican turnover, what switch can I use?
- other version of this effect?

Thanks
epicurus

I like Double Think as a solution, although it does require two specs and selections. Don't know Crystal Thought at all. Does that use a Mexican Turnover? That sounds like an awful switch for this type of effect.

If you don't like Double Think I honestly reckon your best bet is the ID. Or a force along the lines of Extreme Mental Effort...

Ok I’m having a hard time placing a credit for this (help?), but since it seems such a classic technique (i.e. who is mechanics grip attributed to?) than I will give my insight openly about it.

I have used a pasteboard version of magician’s choice in the past. Simply having the card named and by means of magician’s choice forcing the card as the only card left on a table,

There are many variations on the possible steps you could take in the process; in my opinion, and ultimately the spectators, I think the fact that the spectator is the one to seemingly “choose” 1 out of 52 possible cards makes the exact illusion you’re speaking of even brighter.

One advantage of the trade I frequently use in magicians force is to crimp the chosen card and simply instruct the spectators on which piles to shuffle around the table until everything is stacked up again set aside their chosen card. And for the more timely folk a marked/stacked deck definitely works to the advantage of the magician.

Although it is not entirely a given, and perhaps risky, I enjoy the performance antic in making direct eye contact and saying in a low tone “Are you okay with this card? You of course had the option of choosing any other card. So if you have a DOUBT in how this will turn out, I will give you the chance to replace this with any other card of your choosing.” If asked in a doubtful & hesitant tone, 90% of the time a spectator, especially if you have a knack for their character, will crunch this statement in their heads like a damned poker player. Does he really want me to pick another card? “Hmm no I’ll stick with this one.” It simply magnifies the effect.

If by chance they drag another card in its place, its Mexican turnover time. But part of magician’s choice is a good reading of a persons tendencies and how they react to instruction, therefore being a set variable in how far you feel you can push their concept of a seemingly free choice right up into their ego.

As always I hope my rants don’t completely miss the target, as I feel they most definitely appeal to me. But this thread was irresistible to me. Therefore any advice or touch ups on points I have made are most welcome!

Ciao for now

Kirk

That's not very direct, and it's not a prediction. If you really want to use the MC to eliminate the entire deck you'd probably be best off using PATEO which would at the very least save you from the Mexican Turnover (sorry, but I really do think it's a lousy move for this type of effect).

I know it's not 'on the table' but I would go back to the ID. Bonus: it even saves you from needing a table!

hm true, I understand where you're coming from.

my arrangement is a reverse prediction with a twist, as in, the spectator names a card at the beginning (which in turn, is considered the prediction). The baffle is instead revolving around the fact that the magician seemingly had nothing to do with the outcome or the initial prediction. Where as in the illusion stated above the magician reveals his knowledge of the card as the climax.

I do highly agree with you though, that the most profitable means of performing this is with ID. However, I would also throw Knepper's "Kollosal Killer" and its variations on the table, for those that our comfortable with his technique.