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Dancing Hanky

Postby KingJeux. » Jul 23rd, '07, 16:34



Hey guys.. I am likely doing a kids show in the next few weeks and this seems to be something that would appeal. I have seen variations of it, and am wondering if someone has played around with any of them?

I have seen some that 'dance' right out of your hands which would be ideal rather than just moving around within your hands.

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Postby Part-Timer » Jul 23rd, '07, 16:40

As I'm sure you can imagine, some of the more remote versions can't be done in all circumstances. I doubt they'd be suitable for a kids' show.

However, there is a version known as Waltzing Matilda, which can leave your hands to a small degree. It might be the one you are thinking of; the handkerchief skitters around, with a sort of twitching motion.

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Postby KingJeux. » Jul 23rd, '07, 17:07

No it wasn't any remote controlled one. Just a simple and cheap one. Similar to the one seen on penguin magic. I just want it to seem like 'magic' in the kids minds, rather than it just being me sneakily moving it.

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Postby Michael Kras » Jul 23rd, '07, 17:11

Just get a cheap Fantasma Dancing Hank for $15

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Dancing Handkerchief

Postby Allen Tipton » Jul 26th, '07, 18:31

:) King Jeux. The Sean Bogunia versions may be too expensive for you and certainly needs weeks & weeks of rehearsal, except perhaps the electronic one, but this is limited in its travelling abiliies!!
You may be better looking at the Don Wayne original version which is very light, simple but still needs a lot of rehearsal. Supreme once put it out in the UK.
Details of it( and Don did 2 versions) are in Ian Adair's book A La Zombie, pages 50 to 52. I had both versions; the main difference being a spring instead of a rubber band! I preferred the first. The 2nd I handed on to one of my protegees
A cheap version of it is available at eMAGICTRICKS.co.uk Price £15:99. The rather quick video clip doesn't always come up on the screen but there are pics with the advert.
Children are often not so keen, to put it mildly with floating or levitation. They simply say, it's on a wire.
For kids you might look at Ali Cardabra's Zombie Wand. Paul used to sell it and it's detailed(& simple to work) in his first lecture notes. Self contained & it work like the Zombie.
pm me if you have any more questions.
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Re: Dancing Handkerchief

Postby Michael Kras » Jul 26th, '07, 18:33

Allen Tipton wrote::) King jeux. The Sean B versions may be too expensive for you and certainly needs weeks of rehearsal.
You may be better looking at the Don Wayne original version which is very light, simple but still needs a lot of rehearsal.
Details of it( and Don did 2 versions) are in Ian Adair's book A La Zombie, pages 50 to 52. I had both versions and preferred the first. The 2nd I handed on to one of my protegees
A cheap version of it is available at eMAGICTRICKS.co.uk Price £15:99. The rather quick videao clip doesn't always come up on the screen but there are pics with the advert.
Children are often not so keen, to put it mildly with floating or levitation. They simply say, it's on a wire.
For kids you might look at Ali Cardabra's Zombie Wand. Paul used to sell it and it's detailed( very simple) in his first lecture npotes. Self contained it does however work like the Zombie.
pm me if you have any more questions.
Allen Tipton


Sean Bogunia gave me Impossible Hank for free after I answered the trivia question "Who invented the ID?" (Don Alan.)

It definitely takes weeks to program it, rehearse with it and get all of the timing precise.

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Re: Dancing Handkerchief

Postby Josh Clarke » Jul 26th, '07, 18:53

Michael Kras wrote:Sean Bogunia gave me Impossible Hank for free after I answered the trivia question "Who invented the ID?" (Don Alan.)
It definitely takes weeks to program it, rehearse with it and get all of the timing precise.


You make me want to bang my head on my keyboard repeatedly. Every single post you write somehow involves you "puffing up" like a peacock. Could you ever answer a post with out hyping yourself up? Please save my head from the agony ... :x

Anyways, back to the topic of the thread.
I would check out this: http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1530
My little sisters freak out everytime.

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The Dancing Hanky

Postby Allen Tipton » Jul 26th, '07, 20:00

:) Josh I'll pm you
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Postby Michael Jay » Jul 26th, '07, 20:18

Josh is pointing out a "Glorpy" (the original name of this type of "dancing" hank), which, if used properly, can get some really good reactions. In fact, Banachek uses a Glorpy in one of his routines, but rather than trapping a ghost, he uses it to make a pen look as if it is writing underneath the hank. Creativity goes a long way in magic.

Now, most of your dancing hanks on the market are not only expensive, but are not useful in a general cabaret styled children's magic show. I would suggest that you leave such things out, unless you are going to have a formal stage.

However, just as with the Glorpy that Josh suggests, you might want to consider doing a magic mouse presentation. Quentin Reynolds offers a DVD on the magic mouse, with a full routine included (reviewed here). Most folks will be very uncomfortable with Reynolds's presentation (myself included), but nevertheless the material and bits of business that he gives with that DVD are priceless. This is something that you can carry in your pocket, taking up next to no space, and have at the ready anywhere, anytime - good for a cabaret presentation, a close up presentation, an impromptu presentation and even a restaurant walk around presentation. Much more valuable that any dancing hank that can only performed under the most stringent of venues.

Also, you might want to pick up a copy of "Self Working Handkerchief Magic" (Fulves), which will further give you "The Rabbit" which could easily be routined in with the magic mouse...This shows that you can take a hank, breath life into a mouse then turn around and breath life into a rabbit...This has some striking possibilities.

Anyway, those are just some thoughts.

Mike.

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Postby Michael Kras » Jul 26th, '07, 20:46

The Fantasma Dancing Hanky is a great one for kids,, it is veyr cheap and it flys around as well. I had one as a beginner and it was a lot of fun to use. I recommend you check it out.


www.fantasmamagic.com

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The Dancing Handkerchief -- On Stage

Postby Allen Tipton » Jul 27th, '07, 11:35

:) 1. The Dancing H appeared in August Roterberg's book, The Modern
Wizard in 1895
2. Frederick Eugene Powell( Dean of American magicians) claimed to
have invented it around 1900
3. Anna Eva Fay, the 'physic' used a Spirit D H in her shows.
4. Harry Kellar is said to have seen it & adopted it, under the title,
Cassada Propaganda in his programme( a title later used by
Blackstone Senior)
5. Charles Neil Smith in 1912 claimed to have invented the trick and
featured a jug covered by a glass dome.
6. Blackstone Senior( who featured it in the show by 1918) 'published' his
ideas via Bert Wheeler's Hollywood Magic Company in a 4 page m/s. I
have heard he didn't write it but at the end his name appears with a
line above for him to sign. Sadly mine, purchased in 1976, too late for
his signature, was unsigned. I believe that Blackstone was the first to
make it so funny, cute & absolutely entertaining.We are lucky because
he is on video, as is Harry Blackstone, performing it brilliantly.
7. Ralph Adams published a short m/s showing his quite complicated set
up.It's also on the video accompanying his book & in the Ching book.
8. Many of the old and most of the new magicians have featured it,
though a number have based their routines on the those of Henning &
Copperfield.
9. There is a fair detail on the modus operandi in the chapter Reel-less
Magic in The Ency Of Silk Magic( think..it's Vol 2.?)

10.Michael A.Ching (Hawaii) with whom I corresponded last year and
provided sought after material on the Floating Ball, published
the 'definitive' book on the DH. It's called New Animations & runs to
139 pages with; hook ups, materials, lighting, backgrounds.gimmicks,
music, effects use on TV or video,as well as many methods. It is very
well illustrated with line drawings & several photographs.
If you are interested in this effect, for the stage, this is a must.

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