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I preform "do as I do" as seen(more or less) on penguin magic.

i was wondering though if there is a single card version of it, and by that i mean is there a version where instead of you and the spectator both picking cards only the spectator picks a card in this version but with the same effect more or less

for some reason i remember reading about a version like this either on this forum or another.

ID?
Or one way deck?

Assuming though that I'm understanding what you mean.



Though I might have got the wrong end of the wand.




Exit stage left.

i don't use gaffed decks...

the one i vaguely remember was done with a regular deck if a recall correctly

Kemo wrote:I don't use gaffed decks...

Why not!? mad head! I makes life a lot easier.
Imagine if derren brown didn't use any gaffed things, where'd he be!?

i said i don't use "Gaff decks"... i am starting to use gaff cards... but i like just having a regular deck i can let people inspect. Just my personal preference.

that's quite funny. i don't really like gaff cards but will happily use a gaff deck. there's no shame in it

i use to think that if you used a "gaff' deck you were less of a magician then some one who only used gaffed card or dup cards... but it doesn't matter either way...

like i said i just like having the ability to hand out a deck for people to inspect and i find it easier to steal a card out or even just give them the deck with the dup or gaff in the deck and they don't even notice.

i could always just do a deck switch, but with what i wear when i prefrom it makes it a hard to preform the switch.

even in jeans switch is easy if done at the right time.

most of the time i figure people can tell i have a dekc of cards in my pocket of my jeans so if i were to reach in with a deck in my hand and switch them i think the movement would attract their attention. or i figure they will watch me move my hand for the switch. I tend to give the audience more credit of inteelengence then they have most likely.

But either way i enjoy not using gaff decks. That is just the way i am. it also makes life a little cheaper.

I'm not sure I'm following what you're saying, Kemo. If only one selection is made by the spectator, how is it still a "do as I do" effect, if you're not doing anything?

I checked out the penguin version of Do as I Do, and if you remove the magician's selection of a card, wouldn't the effect, for the most part, be a variation of Triumph?

I could just be missing the idea here, but that's what I see right now. Can you be more specific about what kind of effect you're trying to achieve?

i don't preform triumph so im not too sure what that envolves or what the effect so... ill have to look into that...

i just had remembered someone some place talk about a single card "do as i do" trick... i was hoping i could find out more about it... perhaps they were just talking about triumph but didn't know the name

There is a one-deck do-as-I-do with a regular deck, in Karl Fulves' "Self-Working Card Tricks"... I think volume 1.

Demitri wrote:I'm not sure I'm following what you're saying, Kemo. If only one selection is made by the spectator, how is it still a "do as I do" effect, if you're not doing anything?

I checked out the penguin version of Do as I Do, and if you remove the magician's selection of a card, wouldn't the effect, for the most part, be a variation of Triumph?

Exactly my point, that's why I think that ID or similar deck would work. It is, in a sense, a Triumph. It doesn't take a subtantial leap of imagination to come up with a Do As I Do patter, and it'd take much less work for the same effect.

Although I'm still not entriely sure what you mean.

If you find out more, could you go into a bit more detail Kemo?


Mark

triumph just looks like a more complicated "renegade"

Kemo wrote:triumph just looks like a more complicated "renegade"

Perhaps, but "Renegade" is a just very slight variation on the "Slip-slop Shuffle" (by Larry Jennings I think ) which in turn is a variation on the original Triumph by Dai Vernon. Mind you, the history of the trick is a whole new can of worms and I'm not an expert.
Jerry Sadowitz has a version of the slip-slop where he culls the aces as he goes. It's very effective.

I used the slip slop a lot until I learned the original, though it is still my 'in the hands' version.

I would recommend the original. Personally, I think it should be required learning.

Anyhow, don't want to hijack the thread... I'm intrigued by this single card Do As I Do. What's the full effect?