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I've had a read through the reviews and, although they're very helpful, I can't decide on what to buy to start learning coin magic. I've been learning mostly card magic (and a little bit of mentalism) for about a year now and I fancy dabbling with coins a bit. Can anyone help me out with which of the following options to go for?

1. Bobo's book. Everyone seems to agree it is to coins what RRTCM is to cards.
2. Sankey's Revolutionary Coin Magic DVD. It's had good (almost rave) reviews and I get on well with learning from DVD, but is it suitable for the coin beginner?
3. Ammar's coin DVD. Again, good reviews and definitely seems to be aimed at the beginner, but is it as good as the Sankey?
4. And if that wasn't enough there's now the Schneider on Coins e-book.

I must admit I'm leaning towards a DVD, but if the accepted wisdom is 'You must start with Bobo' then I'll go with that. Thanks for any help.

Not really being much of a coin man myself I only have Bobo so I'm afraid I can't help with the others but you are right, Bobo is a fantastic book for beginners.

Hello

It sounds like you want a video m8 so go for that if it is what you want, Bobo is a fantastic book but if you don't get on with books as well go for the vid, though you can get Bobo for next to nothing so maybe both.
Bobo is a little old fashioned but still worth every penny.

I haven't seen the Sankey DVD though he is very good but I have seen Ammar.
This one is very good for a starter and I think you will get a lot out of it m8.
Anyway hope that helps, once a few have answered I am sure it will all become clear, you will just have to buy them all

Well, as with most people, when I started serious coin work, the only places to get info were either Bobo's or a marvellous little book on coin magic by Jean Hugard (of RRTCM fame)

Nowadays, learning is far easier, and the vast array of coin magic (and of course, other magic) on video and DVD.

However, being from the 'old school', where these visual practical resources were NOT available, I still find it easier to learn from text first.

Saying that, Roth's coin magic intro material is good, as is Ammars. And although I would love to rave through the roof at Sankey's coin DVD, I will not.

Because, put simply, it's not really aimed at a total beginner.

However - coin magic consists of a few very 'basic' manouvers, similar to card magic. Learning these and evolving from them to your own style would be a great starting point.

Therefore, I suggest you get your head around Bobo's, then try the Ammar or Roth vidoes.

not forgetting encyclopedia of coin slights volume one.

graet accomplimant to bobo's and a thumbs up fpr amars intro to coin from me too.
go sankey, go sankey,

some assembly required

, as seige says not quite for the biginner but you could start here with revolutionary coin magic and still get a grounding in basics all be it in a sankey slanted way .

David Roth's expert coin magic made easy is pretty much as good a start as your going to get.

Personally I don't find him the most charismatic of magicians not like for instance Sankey, but very good clear teaching starting right at the beginning. Can't go wrong with it.

Thanks very much for the replies. It looks like Bobo and maybe a Roth video to start then. I hadn't heard anything about those before now so I'll try and check some reviews.

As a big Sankey fan i got Sankey's "Revolutionary Coin Magic DVD". It's a great DVD but it's NOT for the beginner. I also have the clasic Bobo book but decided I also wanted a DVD to help me on the way so......

I have just bought "Expert Coin Magic DVD 1-3" by David Roth (it arrived yesterday) and from what i have seen so far it's great. The 3 volumes (on 1 DVD) take you from beginner to advanced. Here's what you get...

Volume One - Basic Coin Magic:

The Classic Palm
The Finger Palm
The Thumb Palm
Classic Palm Vanish
Finger Palm Vanish
Thumb Palm Vanish
Palm Finesses
Palm Transfers
Fingertip Rest Position
The Utility Switch
The Shuttle Pass
Loads & Productions
Coin Switches
Vanish & Reproduction
Winged Silver
Copper & Silver
Coin Change
Chink-a-Chink
French Drop & Variations
The Vernon Load
Ramsay Subtlety
L'Masque Load
Kaps Subtlety
Power of the Magic Wand
Benzais Friction Palm
The Bobo Switch

Volume Two - Basic to Intermediate Coin Magic

The Retention Pass
The Click Pass
The Curl Palm
Hanging Coins
Multiple Coin Production
Wild Coin
Coins to Cup
Coin through Hand
Coins Through the Hole
Spellbound
One-Handed Spellbound Change

Volume Three-Intermediate to Advanced Coin Magic

The Cardini Steal
Metamorphosis Change
Advanced Chink-a-Chink
Milliken's Transposition
Tenkai Pennies
Silver/Copper Extraction
The Magical Filtration
One-Coin Routine
Advanced Copper & Silver
T.V. Surprise
Advanced Coins Through the Table
David roth's Purse & Glass

The tips Roth gives you are excellent and he is a great teacher (The roth shuttle pass taught by the master) - with slow motion repetitions / reviews of moves.

I bought mine from Hocus Pocus and it's well worth a look!

Hi there

When I was getting into coins, I found Bobo's a bit too much. It's an excellent book but I found it was eaisier to learn the basics from a vdeo or DVD and then go back to Bobo's. The one thing to be sure is that if you are serious about coin magic at some point you are going to HAVE to read Bobo's.

David Roth has an excellent set of four DVD's called the ultimate oin collection, which is great for a beginner. So is Ammar's "Introduction to coins" and Easy to Master Money Magic series. These are the best resources to learn the basic moves from.

Once you have the various palms and sleights sorted you might want to try Michael Rubinstien. He is probably my favourite coin guy and has a DVD out called "knock out coin magic" and a three volume set of encyclopedia of coin slights. You might want to saty away from Reed McClintock and Curtis Kam until you know for certain that oins are what you really want.

As for books, once you have the basics sorted out try unexpected visitor by Doug Brewer and Coin Magic by Kaufman (if you can still get it). Both are really good but expect that you know the basics. To be honest I would say the same with Sankey, good but a tad advanced.

One final word of advise. Don't give up. Coin magic is a lot more difficult to "get into" than card magic, cause there are not that many effects that technically you can do straight away (self workers). There are a few (Theives and sheep etc) but not many. With card magic you can pick up a deck and within 10 minutes learn a trick that looks very impressive and will get you a good reaction (if performed properly). This reaction usually, motivates the student to learn more. With coin magic it can take a couple of months to learn a decent palm and simple vanish and then even more time to learn what to do with them. I have seen a lot of people give up cause it's too much work (compared to other brances of magic). Don't give up and ultimatly you will be rewarded.

Good Luck

Craig

absolutely just to echo your points:-

coshman / tenkie pinch and pointy transfer

thease take work a lot of work but when you have them pat your never without a vanish or coin switch and as your knowledge grows so does the amasingness o9f the magic you can perform.
even with gaffed coins such as butter coin its still hard but like a stripper deck in cards they can be a help, but doing it all by slieghts is far more rewarding than it is to do the same as a stripper deck with cards.

coshman / tenkie pinch and pointy transfer

thease take work a lot of work but when you have them pat your never without a vanish or coin switch

Well said.

A lot of people give up on the pinch but the effect you can achieve when you have it perfected is amazing. I still say that Mr Clean Coins Across is one of the best coins across that you can do impromptu and Curtis Cam's version of 2 copper 1 silver from palms of steel (that also uses the pinch) is one of the best effects you can do for a layman.

Mind you, I also like the deep back clip. Some of the stuff that you can do with that move is just great. A lot of people overlook it but just the effects described in Expert Coin Magic make it worthwhile to learn. There is also a great vanish and production sequence on Cultural Exchange that is quite easy as long as you can do a deep back clip and a deep back clip recovery (and a mussle pass).

Nice to see so many coin lovers on a forum.

Craig