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Change of perspective

Postby mysterico » Sep 27th, '07, 19:52



Thsi is a theory that i came up with a few days ago. I would like to know if any of you guys agree with it. After you have started learning magic, your view of it changes. For example:

you watch a trick, it is a DL only. Before you started learning magic, you would probarbly say "wow! that is a really cool trick!"

But if you know a bit of magic, you may say: "wow! Can you teach me that?"

I think that once you know a few magic tricks, you stop believing and start demanding the trick.

Please comment on my theory!!!

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Postby sleightlycrazy » Sep 28th, '07, 00:56

I don't think that's necessarily true. You can learn all the card sleights in the world and be baffled by Penn and Teller's Shadows and Bullet Catch.

You can learn the DL and be astonished by a Luke Jermay effect.

Most of my peers know the basic key card trick, but they give up on learning anything I do.

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Postby Phas3r » Sep 28th, '07, 06:48

hum how to explain this...
When i go see a magic show i am not looking for the methods and im often as amazed as everyone around and even more sometimes.

I will spot mistakes and bad moves because yes they are obvious to me but most of the time i let the performer fool myself.

My view on magic hasnt changed much from the first trick i saw in front of my eyes. I was lucky enuff to have the performer show me one of the trick but i knew it was as true as the santa claus. I dont think i asked him for that instead i remember my friends bugged him and he never told em anyway.

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Postby theunknown » Sep 28th, '07, 07:42

Of course your view of magic shows does change once you get deeper and deeper into it. I find that whatching some show I end up analyzing the preformance, findin good and bad points and learning new applications for sleights, while a layman would just enjoy the show. I think this is quite inevitable because a magician (with atleast some experience) will recognize aspects of a show (in preformance, tricks or sleights) and thus find it hard to get into the feeling of the show. This doenst necceserally make it any less enjoyable though.

This does not apply to all ofcourse because as sleightlycrazy said, a magician can easily entertained and fooled by another skilled magician, which is all the more fun.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Sep 28th, '07, 11:29

I think that you might watch magic in a different way, of course you might not be amazed and baffled by it as you know some methods (although definatly not always the case). I tend to watch and be entertained by a magicians skill and presentation. I'd never start demanding how a trick was done, to me that just shows a disrespect to the performer and I'd hate it if someone did that to me.

I might start deconstructing it in my mind but if I couldn't see the method I'll just enjoy the performance.

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Postby Deshi » Sep 28th, '07, 12:16

I think the more i learn the more respect i have for those performing. Even though i know hows things are being done, if they done well i still appreciate the effect and get alot of joy from seeing it. On the flip side i feel bad when they're not done so well, only out of empathy.

I love magic and get a thrill out of seeing it and the reactions drawn from just as much as performing it. When i get caught out with a good effect i feel like a kid again. I don't think I'm tainted from learning magic in terms of mind set as mentioned in the first post. I've just enhanced the peripheral benefits and experiences i get from it.

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Postby theunknown » Sep 28th, '07, 13:25

I agree with Deshi that it being a magician does not dilute performances (unless the effect is preformed so clumsily that you feel ashamed watching it) but rather gives a new analytic point of view. Although, Im beginning to fear that this is not exactly what mysterico was driving for with his post.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Sep 28th, '07, 14:40

I don't think that many people would demand to know how a trick was done or go to great lengths to deconstruct it, I know I quite like seeing a trick and not knowing how it works.

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