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I have seen this in his hands - on video - and they are stunning......so bought a set yesterday - in a Canadian shop - and too my dismay the directions are written in Japanese only....yes there is some pictures, but they are somewhat confusing with out the text descriptions. Any one else have these? I am in need of some suggestions for handling.....I feel like I am trying to do up my zipper with mittens on......if you get my analogy!

Hi there Moodini

My best suggestion would be to get the shoot ogawa dvd of the ninja rings as I personally feel that going through some of the moves using text would be quite difficult. However if you need any assistance I am more than happy to help. PM me and we can always discuss this more indepth.

I have watched the dvd and it is highly detailed. You would not have any problem learning the routine. But I think that the most beautiful routine I ever saw was by Richard Ross. The routine is done as if in slow motion.

I have watched the dvd and it is highly detailed. You would not have any problem learning the routine. But I think that the most beautiful routine I ever saw was by Richard Ross. The routine is done as if in slow motion.

Is the Richard Ross version done on the same rings? Or the more traditional rings? And is there a dvd out for it?

Just three single standard rings...No dvd that I know of.

There is a hard covered book for the routine

Greedoniz....going to pm you as well.

I am enjoying the rings a bunch but using a "modified routine" to suit my abilities thus far.....I can't get the spin link or the one handed block link to save my life....I have spent countless hours on them and with no luck. Any thoughts or suggestions on those two moves would be appreciated....

If you do the spin link it is easier to hit it nearer to the hand than central. the spin hides this fact. In fact you can almost hit it with your hand. Plus get it dead on 90 degrees. Look at the way your hand moves down to meet the spinning ring, you may find you are coming down in a slight curve.

As for the one handed link, again the hand must come down dead on 90 degrees, so watch the way your hand moves, hit it slightly back from center and it is not a hit as such but a very sharp flick. You may also find that if you twist the rings you are hitting so they face a particular way it is easier. I found this hard at first untill I realised the effort that is required to make it work. A lot of energy is needed for the flick and it needs to be short and sharp. The stop part of the flick needs to be sharp if you get what I mean. Shoot makes it look relaxed and easy which fooled me into thinking that it was less energetic than it is.

Hopes this helps. PM if you have more probs.

Thanks....will play......again, and again, and again....any others actually ended up with bruises alongside their pinky side of hand from overworking and the frustration of trying different amounts of strike pressure? My hands hurt at times....I don't always hit hard but at times have found that during the spin link I have managed to catch things a touch too square and simply smashed the link between hand and table and it stopped the spin and the ring stayed there against my hand....ouch!

You shouldn't ned to use any sort of force. Infact a relaxed manner helps both perform the move and makes the effect look better

Most of the bruising hasn't occurred as much out of aggressive force as simply bad luck of when striking down I catch the ring on my hand and it doesn't give or anything so in following through downward a few times I end up with a repetitive strain injury - in this case bruise - from having 'bumped my hand on th ring" and doing so from such and angle that it doesn't link or move out of the way so even the slightest force is a feels like slamming......

When practising I do get a pinch type pain in my hand at the base of the little pinky, never bruising. I agree with gredoniz when he says you need a relaxed manner. You can't force a solid ring to penetrate another ring you have to let it happen.
Have you got the dvd? Even when you see shoot do the spin pick up you can notice that he is quite near his hand. Also I had to practice just spinning the ring without the pick up just to get the spin stationary enough to make the pick up possible.
The one handed pick up flick I find just needs short sharp energy but not forced aggresion just in case my post was missread.

I love this routine and it never fails to get good reactions. You gotta get the Shoot Ninja Rings DVD

I did get eventually get the DVD and it was a huge help - actually don't feel the rings are worth anything without it in hindsight - but the two moves are driving me insane.....will get them eventually.....the three P's to improvement:

Practice
Patience
Persistance

Certainly apply here!

I do use them and love them, simply modified the routine - which isn't a bad thing anyway - to suit my two weak areas....would like to add them into the routine eventually though.

I lost my ninja rings, Can't find them anywhere!