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Blood

http://www.worldmagicshop.co.uk/advance ... d&x=8&y=10

£14.99

A comedy gag where blood suddenly appears on a spectator’s arm, amid a run of gags and by-play. Ask spectator how his pain threshold is… Then place one drop of liquid about the size of a pea on the spectators arm, telling him it’s antiseptic, just for insurance purposes, in case things go wrong. Ask him if he wants some more…”O.K,. to heck with the expense. A pocket knife is then taken out (it is actually blunt) and the magician pretends to cut into the spectator's arm! Amid a run of gags and by-play, blood suddenly oozes from the arm under the blade, to great astonishment from the audience! TOTALLY SAFE!

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This looks as real as it gets. Very easy, very visual, very hmm well sick. If you want a great opener that will make people sit up and pay attention this could be it. Of course if your specs are too chicken it could be done on your own arm to prove mind power and in which case it wouldn't need to be done as a gag.

Exclusive to World Magic Shop

I've done a review of minds in focus

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3268

yankeetom wrote:I would have thought this was better described as a novelty item alá a whoopee cushion?

Oh imagine this... a blood-spurting whoopee cushion

I'm seeing kids parties as a definite for this, maybe when they sit down and eat their ice cream and jelly...

Blood is not a Magic Trick as such, it is more of a Magic gag, but a very efective one.

Its not a Gimmicked Knife, and spectators will never know how what has hit them.

Yeah I'd agree with Gochas, though if done on yourself I feel it could be done more seriously as for example proof of mind over pain. It would simply need bandaging afterwards so as not to expose the fact that there actually was no cut.
This looks very very effective, no matter how close your specs are.

but as has been already pointed out this is simply a gag so whats the point?

Mog it really bugs me when people make negative comments about stuff they haven't even seen, perhaps you should get it and then make your negative comments.

I'd say that the nature of this effect is evident from the description and that one deosn't need to buy the item to know whether or not it's any good. This isn't like a card routine where you buy it, then find you need to know twenty different sleights, or a levitation that can only be performed with the lights off in front of a black velvet drape.

I have to agree that this effect seems to be "make blood appear from nowhere". It might be relevant to some kind of swami/David Blaine self-harm routine, but as presented (making it happen to a spectator), I can't honestly see there's much use.

Yes, you've made blood appear. Then what?

However, if this item works the way I think it does, it will have a use to anyone who owns "Building Blocks" by Luke Jermay.

its not a usual occurence for me to make negative comments about anything on here, be it reviews or just ideas people put forward, i very rarely put anything down without good reason. However the reason i placed "negative comments" is that in my own opinion, noone elses not talkmagic or anyone elses here, i feel this is a waste of time. As this is a forum on which peoples views are put across then i feel it is my right as a user to put across my views and as stated in my view this is a waste of time and money. Also the fact that gochos states

Blood is exclusive to World Magic Shop.
What we would like to do is offer this Fantastic effect for £13 instead of £15, or £10 if purchased with a Minds In Focus, to all MB Members.

Email Sayng you are an MB member, with your MB username, and I will message you a descount code for the descount.

Dealers will start Selling this item, so keeps your eyes open. (Dealers do not hesitate to contact for further info)

then this would appear to be a blatant commercial plug, especially the bit about "dealers contact me for further info" this was also posted on here but was deleted for this reason.


so in my own very humble opinion i wouldnt waste £13 or even 13p on this


but everyone else can make up their own mind

I have two points of view about this...

Point 1: I was recently in Tommy Coopers shop (not the real TC I fear!) in Blackpool. I was shocked to see so many 'gags' alongside real magic items, such as Ravens etc. Conversely, I was horrified to then see a Dynamic Coins set being sold at another shop alongside the fake ciggies and fake puke.

There is a fine line between 'trick' and 'gag'. Is an electric hand shocker a trick or a gag? Sylvester the Jester may have the opinion it's a gag, wheras Paul Zenon would possibly deem it a trick.

Point 2: The old 'blood from knife' thing has always been a gag. And a very odd one at that. Sure, when it's coupled with the blade VISIBLY PENETRATING THE ARM, it's fakirism-esque, and therefore it's a trick.

Personally, I would find the standard blood from knife more of a gag.

And guess what? That's EXACTLY as it is sold, as a 'comedy gag'. The actual advert says so!

And sincerely, with no offence or prejudice, I feel that's grounds enough for the comments of Mog, who is purely fulfilling his job as an admin.

To put this in context, I'm sure we'd all feel a bit miffed if suddenly we saw reviews of fake dog turds and the likes in the MAGIC REVIEWS section?!?!?

I have to agree that although I have tried to see both sides of this tale, I cannot see how this item (however good or groundbreaking) could fit into a standard magic routine?

Unless, of course, you are Criss Angel, who, in my opinion, mixes magic and performance art in a very dark and gothic way anyways.

I have not purchased or seen this item, but from the description alone, I fear that this may well have just a hollow knife with a blood squeezer—for the following reasons...

1. The audience, in my opinion, or even a close up speccy won't appreciate the 'finer' workings of this version. For them, it may as well be already soaked in blood. The final effect would appear to be the same.

2. I can't help thinking that this is one of those things that ends up as a 'So what?'. And I've seen plenty of those... i.e. Watch as I make your £5 note float in the air! Yeah, but why?

3. It WOULD seem like a plug, rather than a review. Sorry, but that's how it comes over.

4. If the utility were sold as part of a ROUTINE then it could possibly be justified as a magic effect/trick.

5. I could not justify even the discounted price, considering I can buy a 'blood oozing knife' for less than a couple of quid from smaller 'market' type toyshops.

I am not trying to sway or swing this conversation, but I am trying to say that there is justification behind EVERY aspect of this thread. And it's brought to light an interesting subject, which involves definition: is it a gag, or is it a trick.

To me the difference between a gag and a trick is that after it's been done, the spec won't know how the trick was done but would know how the gag was done.
If the spec is left wondering, how the heck did he do that then to me that is magic.

As to hollow knife versions of this trick, to me there is no comparison, this is much better and is completely examinable.

Of course it will not suit every type of routine, but then just because it doesn't fit your style doesn't make it any worse or give reason to dismiss it any more than it would be fair for me to knock these new tiger bikes, which I could argue are just an expensive pack of cards that offer magic nothing new at all. ( but I didn't )

forum

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your perfectly entitled to air your views on tiger decks or any such other matters as long as they are in line with the rules of the forum

I don't want to enter this debate, but if I don't, then I think I'm gonna have to order some saucers of milk for members on the forum for the 'catty' nature of what's going on.

Jees. Everyone has opinions. And this is where we express them.

Bottom line: Mog doesn't like this trick/gag and Happy Toad does. So there.

Now lets all be friends and laugh at my whoopee-cushion joke earlier in the thread.

hehe well said zack... and yes your joke was funny... hehe