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On Joshua Jay's Close Up, Up Close Volume 2, the 4th trick is called THINK-A-CARD, in which the spectator thinks of a card, reveals the name of the card, and within two seconds, the performer asks the spectator to turn over the deck's top card...and guess what? The spectator's card is on top.
Stacked, Memorized, Pass...Ok...enough said...I'm not looking to be banned for exposure...so please warn me if I'm going too far...

Anyway, before I ask my question....I will mention that Joshua doesn't go over the explanation very well. He doesn't mention which stack deck version he uses...just that he memorized it....52 cards! Oh well...maybe he made up the order... He gives tips as to the false shuffles and most important, LOCATING the NAMED card. But as you might guess, this is a very hard trick to perform.

Now finally, here is my question. Is there a trick out there that is similar, that can be purchased (either a gimmick, a DVD or a book)? Something similar to BANG ON...but without the envelop...or reaching into a packet...as spectators can assum you have 10 pockets (eventough two are required for Bang On). Something that doesn't use a wallet either...just a regular deck in plain view. But the deck needs to be examinable...(unlike PRIME CUT)

A similar trick that I perform can be found in Stars Of Magic, Bernard Billis. The trick is called SANDWICHED TOUGHT CARD, but the handling is not very clean.

Another similar trick, IT'S A STEAL, on Martin Sanderson's BUSINESS DVD, where a spectator thinks of a card as the performer riffles the deck (no force), is one of my favorites. But this one, is not completely angle proof...Joshua's version is!...But I'll admit, I'm not an EXPERT yet. I will have to practice Joshua's version for a long time.

So...with all this in mind, I am looking for another version to add to my repertoir. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.

Thanks.

Hello Efacymnotis.

I had a bit of a go at answering your post in the introductions section. I'd thought I'd let you know because it may get moved at some point.

It probably won't be much help though.

Thanks...you mispelled my name

Basically what you are asking for is the spectator to freely think of a card and without any moves, and within seconds the spectator can turn over the top card of the deck and it will be the thought of card.

Can be done. Michael Close, He actually is a piano player, he was at one time head of the American Honky Tonk piano players. He has a twist on the ID where it starts out like the ID only the spectator fans through the deck and their merely thought up card is reversed in the deck. Using the same method you can do exactly what you are describing. I'm almost 100% postitive it was Michael Close, but I could be wrong. It has happened.

This effect is quite similar to what you are talking about but I haven't the sleightist idea of how it works. http://youtube.com/watch?v=ch3o5tzYJpQ

Mr.Ection wrote:...I haven't the sleightist idea of how it works...

Was that a pun or a spelling error? Hehe.

Thans for all your replies.

Have a look at double thought projection in Mark Wilson's book.

A spec thinks of any card and you show that card to be the only one in the red backed deck to have a blue back. The blue deck is then picked up and handed to the spec to look through and they find a one red backed card in there, it's the card they thought of.

Very very good trick (I use it in about 3 of my routines), no gimmicks involved at all, no stack and totally examinable. Worth having a look at I think.

Bicycle808 wrote:

Mr.Ection wrote:...I haven't the sleightist idea of how it works...

Was that a pun or a spelling error? Hehe.

Oh yeah. I for got to write, "pun intended". I use that lame joke a lot. But hey, i like it.

I am not familiar with THINK-A-CARD, but from your description I think I can safely say that THE LAST LAUGH by Darwin Ortiz works very much the same way. As you put it: Your "knowledge" has to be dead-cold

By the way: I think it's only fair to say that Darwin explains on the DVD that what we saw in this performance video of THE LAST LAUGH was more or less a lucky hit. The trick usually works slightly different and includes some misdirectional story-telling humor, so to speak

However, Darwin also explains, that he built THE LAST LAUGH on top of another person's (forgot the name) trick, called THE SMILING MULE. From what he tells us about it, I think you won't need to strain your memory for THE SMILING MULE, if you know what I mean.

Cheers,
Michael

Did some research: THE SMILING MULE is a Roy Walton effect.

On a side note: I haven't watched the Ortiz video in a long time, but I must say that I am really amazed by his confidence and skill. He actually prepares the deck so that he has to do 2 perfect faros to get in into the correct order. If he messes up on one of the faros, that would sure ruin his performance

I certainly would do some simple blind shuffles or false cuts. Or just nothing at all But not Mr. Ortiz! Wow.

Cheers,
Mike

Lady of Mystery wrote:Have a look at double thought projection in Mark Wilson's book.

A spec thinks of any card and you show that card to be the only one in the red backed deck to have a blue back. The blue deck is then picked up and handed to the spec to look through and they find a one red backed card in there, it's the card they thought of.

Very very good trick (I use it in about 3 of my routines), no gimmicks involved at all, no stack and totally examinable. Worth having a look at I think.

I would second this wholeheartedly. This is a great routine and the absolute killer is the second reveal. I have started to do this in a sort of mind control routine, look at the cards, look at me, look at the cards and touch one. I am using it as a way of judging if the person is open minded enough to assist me with Scorpion.

All of my magic is tried out in the first instance on my wife. For some reason this one had passed he by and I persuaded her to try it a couple of days ago. She picked the top card which had never happened to me before but it absolutely floored her when I revealed that she had picked the only card in the deck with a blue back. At that point I put the second pack away quietly.........

I use psychological card forces similar to that of derren browns. If they name the card I've tried to force then the card is shown to be the only card reversed in the deck. If a different card is named then I remove that card from the deck and move on to something else.

I reviewed my list of DVDs...and sure enough, I do own SCAM and Fantasies Volume 1 with Darwin Ortiz. Joshua Jay's trick (Think-A-Card) is in fact the same as The Last Laugh. However, Ortiz does a worst job then Joshua Jay in explaining the trick.

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Looks like you basically just Purchased out Penguin Magic
seeing as just about every Dvd you own is Penguin Magics


Whatever Happened to Books...Reading....There is so much history in books and you can learn so so so so so much more....I own a few DVD's Buti think Books are alot ; alot better.

psychological card forces

Wouldn't have the same effect ...would it?
Nope! In the "Think of a card effect" Your trying to pull off a "Miracle"