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Cardza wrote:I guess you dislike any programme which attempts to be at least two-dimensional Freddie?

No I just dislike studenty, best-friend-of-the-comissioning-editor rubbish which smugly thinks it's all very clever. Things like this never stand the test of time. Faddish of the moment stuff and hardly three dimensional.
Gag-free fodder for people who want to feel pleased with themselves that they've got it.

Now Brass Eye, THAT was a show...

This paedophile has discuised himself as a school! Wonderful silliness.

Thing is Freddie the Boosh has been around for quite a while, as a radio thing first then a tv series. I agree that at times it is too studenty for it's own good and in fact I had to be crowbarred into watching it as I had some serious misgivings at first. Needless to say it's a grower, same thing as League of Gentlemen really.

The League of Gentlemen I loved and thought was well written and acted, but the Boosh leaves me cold. I find the two people in it rather annoyingly smug and punchable and it does seem to the same sort of crowd that used to chuckle smugly to themselves when Eddie Izzard stood on stage and said "I am a sponge" and they thought it was some great in-joke as he was being 'surreal' and they got it.

Now The Goodies, surreal AND funny.....

Yes, Brass Eye was an absolute winner,

Remember, Cake is a made up drug.

Lord Freddie, how about Green Wing? Subtle, wacky and most of the time, so out there it was painful?

(Haven't seen the Boosh so can't comment.)

Also, re-runs of Frasier on 4 at 9 am. Another great show.

DT

No American comedy has ever made me laugh, well apart from DIFF'RENT STROKES and that was only because of the midget.

The British sitcom and comedy show in general is in a bad way at the moment. The alternative comedy scene of the 80's has all but killed off humour apart from the odd rogue bit of genius that gets through such as Alan Partridge and Borat.

I love Eddie Izzard! He's my favourite stand up. So there. < me laughing at Eddie Izzard.

I have mixed feelings about The Boosh, although I will watch it if it's on and I'm not doing anything else. It does make me laugh, but I get gradually irritated by people who insist that "randomness" is the highest form of comedy. After a while of watching Mighty Boosh you can feel a bit like, "O.K, the rubber wasp with the spirit guide monkey are on a flying saucer to a crustacean world which turns out to be inside the head of Elton John, and someone said something about Trevor McDonald eating raw parsnips. Hilarious."

Still, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater!

I find Frasier a bit like you seem to find Mighty Boosh, Freddie. Man, that show is overrated. "The thinking man's gentle comedy" - every time I watch it I'm a bit disappointed. Niles acts funny when Daphne's around, their father's not as sophisticated as they are and Frasier will end up comically humbled by the end of the episode... ho ho. Yet if you read the reviews on Amazon etc, people treat it like the bleedin' opera, talking about "passionate and confident performances", "sparkling wit" - sparkiing wit?! Half of it is averagely executed slapstick!
It's a bit like the social class of the characters has rubbed off on the viewers - Frasier is a wealthy intellectual, so this show must be intellectual too, funny on all sorts of clever levels. Er, nope, sorry. Frasier is Friends for people who think they're too clever for Friends.

I find people telling other people why they enjoy what they enjoy incredibly funny.

Frasier, for me, is like all US comedy. It falls into one of two brackets, "wacky" or "aren't we being so clever?". It's not clever, just dull.
Anyway, the phrase "American comedy" is, to me, an oxymoron.

Eddie Izzard is an overweight Julian Clary without any decent material.


Now, Tommy Cooper, there's a funny man....

I just don't get the mighty boosh one bit. I find their attempts at surreal humour far too contrived. At least Vic and bob made it seem effortless and most of all funny.

I'm with Lord Freddie on the american sitcom too. Friends, Frasier, seinfeld all leave me watching the tv stony faced. The only one I have thoroughly enjoyed was Arrested Development and bits of Curb your enthusiasm (especially the chef with tourettes).

One episode was enough for me I'm afraid...

A loud, harsh and drab attempt to 'force' an alternative comedy. I've heard it talked of as 'genius' and 'groundbreaking', but to me it is nothing short of being a kids show with an adult theme. I guess anyone who has endured 'The Wiggles' for the sake of their nephews will know what I mean.

I found 'Boosh' almost embarrasing. A self-indulgence by the authors/lead actors.

During my hazy years at art college, it was fascinating to hear from fellow students the 'weird and wonderful things' they saw or experienced whilst mashed out of their minds when using mind-altering substances. Although sometimes this was amusing, it was more disturbing than anything.

And this is what Boosh reminds me of... an accidental story told by a student which made fellow students laugh... and somehow ended up as a TV series.

I guess I would have to watch a few more episodes to try and 'understand' it. But it leaves me colder than Little Britain does. There's no intelligence or stimulation here, just 'back of a fag packet' ideas which are developed then under-developed in aid to give the whole thing a media-ready 'contemporary' slant.

Well, it's not going to happen, I couldn't persevere with another episode when I know that I could be spending that half an hour much more wisely by pushing back my cuticles with a chainsaw.

I do hope that someone, somewhere can advise us as to the 'Boosh's' magical formula.

I am mightily old-fashioned and stuck in my ways with comedy. And I KNOW I am probably not giving this a chance.

Comedy is a subjective and very personal taste.

I *know* that it *must* be funny, as so many people love it. But whenever I've hear raves and rants, it's been from teenagers who 'watch it whilst drunk' or young ladies who 'fancy the pants of the characters'.

With this really reach cult status? Now it's ME who feels dyslexic...

You know what I don't understand about Frasier? Daphne's accent. If she's from Manchester, it's definitely the Leeds side of town...

what's daphne's favourite group?

T' T'....(The The)

anyway, if you like every gag to end in Rock on Tommy, oooh i could crush a grape, or watching Rik Mayall acting indignantly...go for it!

we all like different things, i know what you mean by boosh being a bit studenty, but, hey, so was vic and bob, league of gentlemen, young ones, and at least two more...

looking back at alexi sayle's early stuff, ben elton's and a few others, it wasn't really that funny...especially elton..can't abide the man...

anyway, it's just taste and fancy innit...i can only think of about 3 songs i like from the boosh, but i enjoyed its homemade look, and the memory of techno-mouse will live long in my memory...

much better than terry and june! even with a curly-wurly on top...

has anyone read Freud's thinking on humour? ironically, i find the disection of what makes something funny ridiculous, especially when i've just done it...

Nothing is better than Terry June!

Except George & Mildred maybe....


The thing is with shows like 'The Boosh' is that they come along every few years, smug students rave about them and when the next one comes along the car boots are flooded with the videos!

It's the same with trendy American shows. Xena? Once the nerds fave, now you buy the complete series for 50p, the same goes for Buffy.
In a few months time you'll be able to get the complete Lost and Heroes for under a pound from a trestle table in a field near you and if you wait another few months, the complete 'Boosh' will be joining them whilst shows such as Terry & June and Rising Damp will be available in a nice air-conditioned shop.

Lord Freddie wrote:It's the same with trendy American shows. Xena? Once the nerds fave, now you buy the complete series for 50p, the same goes for Buffy.

Buffy? Trendy? Buffy was never trendy; as you say it's always been seen as a bit of a nerdy thing. It's not, of course, but that's what people who haven't taken the time to watch it and realise its depth proclaim it to be.

Sure, some people may latch on to a programme because of its cult status, but to generalise this to everybody who watches the show and then lay fault at the feet of the programme is just ridiculous. There will be some who treat it as a bit of a fad and then sell their DVDs and others who really do genuinely enjoy the show, and would regardless of the way it is perceived by the general population.

How often do you find Terry and June cropping up at car booties (or free in newspapers)? And the Carry On's for that matter - would you apply the same thinking to the programmes you hold close to your heart, or do they have some privileged status?

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