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by **moonbeam** » Nov 21st, '07, 20:09

Just received an email:

ATTENTION "BUSINESS PROPOSAL"FROM:Mr.Zhi MingHang Seng Bank Ltd mr.zhi_mingg@yahoo.com.hk

Let me start by introducing myself. I am Mr. Zhi Ming, I work with one of the biggest banks ( Hang Seng Bank ) in Hong Kong,Before the U.S and Iraqi war, our client Fadi bassem a business man made a numbered fixed deposit of (346,736,899..68 HKD) for 18 calendar months, this is valued to Forty Four million Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars only in my branch. Upon maturity several notice was sent to him, evenduring the war, two years ago (2003).

Again after the war another notification was sent and still no response came from him. We later found out that fadi bassem and his family had been killed during the war in a bomb blast that hit his home at Mukaradeeb where his personal oil well was.

After further investigation it was also discovered that Fadi bassem did not declare any next of kin in his official papers including the paperwork of his bank deposit. And he also confided in me the last time he was at my office that no one except me knew of his deposit in my bank.

So, Forty Four million Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars is still lying in my bank and no one will ever come forward to claim it. What bothers me most is that according to the to the laws of my country at the expiration four years six months the funds will revert to the ownership of the Hong Kong Government if nobody applies to claim the funds. My suggestion to you is that I will like you as a foreigner to stand as the next of kin to fadi bassem so that you will be able to receive his funds.

WHAT IS TO BE DONE:

I want you to know that I have had everything planned out so that we shall come out successful. I have contacted an attorney that will prepare the necessary document that will back you up as the next of kin to fadi bassem , all that is required from you at this stage is for you to provide me with your Full Names and Address so tahat the attorney can commence his job.

After you have been made the next of kin, the attorney will also file in for claims on your behalf and secure the necessary approval and letter of probate in your favour for the move of the funds to an account that will be provided by you.There is no risk involved at all in the matter as we are going adopt a legalized method and the attorney will prepare all the necessary documents. Please endeavour to observe utmost discretion in all matters concerning this issue. Once the funds have been transferred to your nominated bank account we shall share in the ratio of 70% for me, 30% for you . Should you be interested please send me your full names and current residential address and I will prefer you to reach me on the email address below(mr.zhi_mingg@yahoo.com.hk) and finally after that Ishall provide you with more details of this operation.

Your earliest response to this letter will be appreciated.

Kind Regards

Mr Zhi Ming mr.zhi_mingg@yahoo.com.hk

So let's get this straight, I only need to pretend that I'm some foreign dude, provide my name and address .... and then later on - my bank details

..... and then I'll get 30% of forty four and a half million US dollars :shock:

Hmmm ..... why do I suddenly feel the urge to send my name as Peter Pan residing at Neverland :?:

by **Beardy** » Nov 21st, '07, 20:18

i really want one of these guys to send me one...

ill try and con them back

either that or severely waste their time

by **HenryHoudini** » Nov 21st, '07, 20:29

yo... Zhi... you're offering that to more than one person?????? I thought you were my friend!!!! but Beard, if you don't mind, please tell me how to con him back. I'm just wasting his time now!

(I am leaving, I promise.)

by **dat8962** » Nov 21st, '07, 21:04

Yep - people do fall for it!

it's referred to as 419 fraud and there is a special squad at Scotland yard who just deal with these.

history is here: http://www.nigeriafraud.org/

by **Markdini** » Nov 21st, '07, 21:07

Not wise to scam bait (as its called) A lot of these people are in professional gangs and you may find your self looking down the business end of a gun.

Its actually called 419 scam, 419 being the penal code in some african states where this type of scam orginates from. Its big business because some where some one will fall this.

Here is some info on this http://www.419eater.com/

EDIT : I see DAT beat me to it.

by **connor o'connor** » Nov 22nd, '07, 00:19

moonbeam, you fool. You should not have posted
I have just offered to do it for a measly 20%
And all he needed was my credit card number and bank details....

The moneys all mine, mine I tells you........... :twisted:

by **Mandrake** » Nov 22nd, '07, 00:34

Eat yer hearts out guys, apprently I've just won the Mongolian State Lottery (strangely enough I don't remember buying the ticket) and my winnings will be here as soon as the nice claims agent, with only a satellite phone, recieves my admin fee. He also said it would be easier to send the winnings if I pass on my bank account details for him to, er, to... ooops :wink:

!!

by **scott priest** » Nov 22nd, '07, 00:39

Hmm, perhaps a computer guru could reply to these people and offer them a virus of some kind? Not that I condone such activities, but it would have to be designed from scratch. He, he, say all you need is some bank info, huh? Well.... :twisted:

by **.:Ham:.** » Nov 22nd, '07, 02:25

Oh, woops, that was a scam?

.:Ham:.

by **Magical_Trevor** » Nov 22nd, '07, 02:27

I remember this when it first started hapening, and people didnt understand what was wrong with it - I get these emails all the time to my university email, becuase of a one-time error, when the uni accidently sent out everyones email address...anyway, I found this man (based in UK) who thought it would be funny to scam these people back...he plays along with their game, and asks for proof of their ID, in the form of a photo of them holding his business name on a large peice of paper - names like 'Ima Plonker'. The website is VERY ammsuing, if a bit long winded in some cases (he shows EVERY SINGLE EMAIL he sends and recives, sometimes taking weeks or months, but it is soooo worth it
(One email I read, he says he will deliver cash personally to them, so he made the guy go to the airport at 3am to meet him, then states that he was arrested, then emails the scammer, pretending to be the police and finds out that he would have been killed on site and robbed :-O)

Website is as follows:

http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/

[WARNING: contains SOME rude names and phrases]

Dan
aka Trev

by **Tomo** » Nov 22nd, '07, 12:04

Email? The sods ring me up and tell me I've won some form of Euro lottery on a regular basis. I've never done a lottery in my life - that's apparently why I have to "pay a small handling fee" for the tickets they've put in on my behalf. Oh, and supply my bank account details so that they can make the deposit.

Yeah, right... :roll:

by **seige** » Nov 22nd, '07, 12:09

Mrs Seige has been 'hit' by postal versions of the 'winners' scam... she has got about 5 letters from the same company now claiming she's won a top prize...

When she doesnt reply, she gets ANOTHER letter, a 'final reminder' that her prize is unclaimed.

This has gone on now for at least 3 months. The letter looks very genuine, very posh, and is in glorious colour.

There would seem to be no twists, no catches, no strings...

Except, a lass she works with fell for the same thing, and her 'luxury holidays worth over £10,000' which she claimed for was nothing more that a load of vouchers, along the lines of '£1000 off a Caribbean cruise when you spend £9000 at Rip-off Cruises Inc.' and such like.

There weren't any lies. There was just ambiguity.

And, as I recall, she paid £20+ for 'express despatch and insured postage' fees.

Well worded scams like this draw people in very easily... much more than the daft 'Nigerian Bank' scams (which is how I believe they were referred to in the 80s and 90s).

The mind boggles!

by **Johnny Wizz** » Nov 22nd, '07, 14:00

This, under the heading "United Kingdom Lottery Promo" is the one I am getting regularly at the moment. I appear to be hugely lucky given that on the National Lottery (for which I do buy a ticket) I am fortunate to get a tenner a year back!

Dear Winner,
We are pleased to inform you of the final announcement today,5th of
October,2007 of winners of the UK NATIONAL LOTTERY ONLINE PROMO
PROGRAMME,held on the 3rd of October,2007.You have therefore been
approved to claim a total sum of £852,000.00 in cash credited to
KXYL/26510460037/07.

Contact our claims agent by email.Mrs.Florence Cole
Email: claimsagentcole1985@yahoo.it
1. Full Names: 2. Address: 3. Age: 4. Sex:
5. Marital Status:6. Occupation: 7. Phone numbers: 8. Country:
Regards
Mr Morris Kelvin
Co-ordinator(Online Promo Programme).
======================================================

by **Tomo** » Nov 22nd, '07, 14:14

seige wrote:And, as I recall, she paid £20+ for 'express despatch and insured postage' fees.

Ouch! One company told me I'd won one of four makes of camera earlier this year. They wanted a fee to send it, but their postal address was only on an industrial estate in Manchester. I thought about going down there and getting a mate to film me as I walked into reception to get my choice of camera. I wanted to argue with them that as I was here there'd be no handling fee. No one had the bottle to film me, though.

by **Lady of Mystery** » Nov 22nd, '07, 14:47

I got offered a modelling contract a couple of months ago, all I had to do to make myself a household name was pay the 'small initial administration fee of £100'.

So as you can guess, you wont be seeing me on those Rimmel adverts just yet.

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