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Lord Freddie wrote:Also refer to the works of David Icke and Robert Anton Wilson.

Is that of Everyday Mind Reading fame?

I have great respect for Robert Anton Wilson. David Icke would not be welcome in Sanctum.

Tomo wrote:I've only just started looking at the manuscript, but I must say it looks very good so far. More later. I'm a very, very busy person at the moment.

I am so glad that you have had a chance to give the document a once over. I have read and thought about your Naked Mentalism. I think all of us here would be especially interested in what you have to say as both Naked mentalism and Sanctum are part of the same paradigm shift.

There is a rumour going about on this and other forums about 'Sanctum3' - or Outlaw putting out a postcard sized Sanctum card. Well, as I am involved in the development of this - and as it contains some of DrS last notes, I am quite angry that this has leaked out. There will be a S3 card, released in response to customer feedback. However, I assure you we will be posting a detailed description when the product is completed - and not before. For the time being, please continue to enjoy your S2 card!

good evening to you,
Cornelius

Cornelius Golde wrote:I have great respect for Robert Anton Wilson. David Icke would not be welcome in Sanctum.

Have you read 'The World's Biggest Secret' or 'Children of the Matrix'?
The most important books since the bible.

Cornelius Golde wrote:I have great respect for Robert Anton Wilson.

Me too.

fnord

Lord Freddie wrote:

Cornelius Golde wrote:I have great respect for Robert Anton Wilson. David Icke would not be welcome in Sanctum.

Have you read 'The World's Biggest Secret' or 'Children of the Matrix'?
The most important books since the bible.

I met the man as he was transforming from a football commentator into a eco warrior (this was before the transformation into.......

Er, I have heard that this guy has a crack team of lawers......

Cornelius Golde wrote:

Tomo wrote:I've only just started looking at the manuscript, but I must say it looks very good so far. More later. I'm a very, very busy person at the moment.

I am so glad that you have had a chance to give the document a once over. I have read and thought about your Naked Mentalism. I think all of us here would be especially interested in what you have to say as both Naked mentalism and Sanctum are part of the same paradigm shift.

There is a rumour going about on this and other forums about 'Sanctum3' - or Outlaw putting out a postcard sized Sanctum card. Well, as I am involved in the development of this - and as it contains some of DrS last notes, I am quite angry that this has leaked out. There will be a S3 card, released in response to customer feedback. However, I assure you we will be posting a detailed description when the product is completed - and not before. For the time being, please continue to enjoy your S2 card!

good evening to you,
Cornelius

Welcome to TM Cornelius....sorry to hear of a leak...but intrigued nonetheless about any future sanctum products....

There is a lot of speculation on some other forums at the moment about the possible existence of a 'real' organization called Sanctum.
Let me put the record straight here - Sanctum is a mentalism effect - pure and simple. There is no secret organisation that you can become a member of.
To answer the rumour that Outlaw Effects are somehow connected with this group, or that it is using this secret society to hype there own goods -Once and for all - Sanctum does not exist in reality. It never has done. We made it up. It is a story created to make a mentalist effect more interesting.
There is no connection between the disappearance of 'Dr.Spirit' and any such organisation. Whilst we are worried about his whereabouts, it is more from concern over his mental state.
Finally, we have no connection with anyone else who claims anything to the contrary.

We at Outlaw are soon to be releasing Sanctum3 - it is a mentalism routine - it will be powerful enough without all of these rumours. Enjoy it for what it is!

Hmmm....wouldn't it be cool if there really was a Sanctum...the probability that there is not some such society or equivalent must be low, surely, especially if you see some of the new books on secret societies...like Black's Secret History of the World, or Manly Hall's classic tome The Secret Teachings of All Ages, or Weed's Wisdom of the Mystic Masters among many others...I came across this little short story that looks interesting

http://www.booksie.com/fantasy/short_story/eglentyne/sanctom

Whatever the case, it is all grist to the mill and broadens the range of presentation options with these kinds of effects.

DrTodd wrote:Hmmm....wouldn't it be cool if there really was a Sanctum....

Of course, if it were a really secret society, we wouldn't know if it existed or not ..... (cue Twilight Zone Theme please, thank you.)

Mandrake wrote:

DrTodd wrote:Hmmm....wouldn't it be cool if there really was a Sanctum....

Of course, if it were a really secret society, we wouldn't know if it existed or not ..... (cue Twilight Zone Theme please, thank you.)

Yes, and the ambiguity is cool....keep digging I guess..as all these groups have members somewhere or they really wouldn't exist.

Good news for all of you who have Sanctum Sanctuary - please send an email to
sanctum28@googlemail.com
I will then send you details of the next phase of Sanctum - S3 will only be available to owners of Sanctum2, so please include the password from the outlaw S2 forum. I will then tell you where you can recieve a S3 from - incidnentally, although Outlaw Effects give an excellent service to the UK - S3 will be even quicker as it is being handled from our base here.
This is also the address to send any questions to.....
pacis
Cornelius

Bohiem (or however you spell it) Grove is ment to be one of these secret place isnt it. If anyone saw the David Icke lecture on this. But not just him there are a few people who talk about it.

I saw the Sanctum 1 card and to be honest it can all be done using Tomo's methoods rather then having a card. And i think using NM priciples are much stronger then some one saying "you have a funny card"

Sanctum Sanctuary is VERY different to the First Sanctum card.
Certain elements from the S1 card were used in S2, but there is far more.
If you like NM, you will almost certainly like S2 - the forces are all done verbally, but with images rather than words (the natural language of the unconscious), the card then acts to validate the reality of the subject's experience.