S.T.EL.TH Loops with Silkworm thread

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Postby greedoniz » Sep 20th, '07, 10:20



I recieved swift delivery of the black silkworm thread last nigh and I must say that I am very impressed with it's qualities.
I was showing the missis the back of my hand (not like that!) withthe thread around it and she couldn't see a thing so it lives up to the I.T part of the deal.
Secondly I was amazed how robust it was too. My previous elastic thread I was using the PET 2.0 which although very elastic and thin was also easily broken.
When tying my first few silkworm loops I was finding they were untying and quickly realised it was because I was used to having to be so gentle with the previous stuff that I wasnt tying the knot tight enough.

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Postby seige » Sep 20th, '07, 10:32

Silkworm Thread is the first IT that I've ever used which allows me to do Finn Jon's effects without worry.

The black thread is GREAT for dim gigs, and the clear thread is also fantastic.

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Postby I.D » Sep 20th, '07, 11:43

whats the difference between black and clear thread..? colour aside obviously :lol:

I really need to get my STELTH system set up to make my own loops.. im just lazy thats all.

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Postby seige » Sep 20th, '07, 11:51

There's no difference aside from colour.

I used to always buy CLEAR and colour it black with a Sharpie if needed.

The main usage differences depend of whether the thread is AGAINST SOMETHING DARK (i.e. pulling a card across a black felt table) or AGAINST SOMETHING LIGHT (i.e. pulling a card across a white sheet of paper)

Also, CLEAR is a little more invisible against the skin.

But BLACK is much better for floating 'freefall' animation like floating bills.

They're pretty much interchangeable.

The Finn Jon ref. comes in that I've never quite managed to find thread strong enough to make loops which will move things with force. The Silkworm thread does just that... admirably.

I am desparately trying to get the price of Silkworm thread down, by the way. I feel it's a little dear for what it is.

When the NUMS bank balance gets a little higher, I'll make a bigger order, and hopefully get the unit cost down for you guys.

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Postby I.D » Sep 20th, '07, 11:56

cheers matey that would be good.

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Postby HenryHoudini » Sep 21st, '07, 22:32

I think Ill buy this. It comes with routines? Does it come with any necessary materials, i.e. a small amount of IT?

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Postby Lord Freddie » Sep 21st, '07, 22:56

HenryHoudini wrote:I think Ill buy this. It comes with routines? Does it come with any necessary materials, I.e. a small amount of IT?

Yes, there are some routines with it and it comes with a huge spool of good quality thread.
The loop making gadget you will need to construct yourself, but it's simple and cheap and the materials are easy to find.

It's well worth it.

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Postby Sargin.Pepper » Sep 22nd, '07, 23:59

I'm definitely getting sometime soon. Just received my Mesika loops yesterday and already broke 3 out of 5. I was ready to just give up on using loops until I read this review.

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Postby Lord Freddie » Sep 23rd, '07, 10:32

You won't regret it. It's such an aggravating feeling when you've paid eight quid for five poxy loops and they all snap within two days.
You can make up a pack in five minutes with this and it won't worry you so much when they snap as you can go home and make some more.

With Mesika's being so expensive, I always had a feeling you had to be so careful with them and was afraid to try anything that may push the limits of Loops through fear of breaking even more. With the S.T.EL.TH system I have made loads of loops to experiment with and now am comfortable as to what can and can't be done with them and what pressure is needed for certain effects.

Doing this with Mesika's loops would cost you a small fortune. This is the way forward for Loop users.

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Postby HenryHoudini » Sep 23rd, '07, 14:20

Lord Freddie wrote:
HenryHoudini wrote:I think Ill buy this. It comes with routines? Does it come with any necessary materials, I.e. a small amount of IT?

Yes, there are some routines with it and it comes with a huge spool of good quality thread.
The loop making gadget you will need to construct yourself, but it's simple and cheap and the materials are easy to find.

It's well worth it.

You just sold me. Now I need to find a way to make whats worth about 44 dollars in the US. Its only sold on NUMS right?

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Postby Lord Freddie » Sep 23rd, '07, 14:29

It's only sold on NUMS, but once you have the apparatus you can use any elastic IT till kingdom come. It's well worth it. A small outlay for something that will save you a lot of money and will make you enjoy loops more.

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Postby JamesJoystick » Oct 25th, '07, 12:51

I ordered this : SILK WORM ELASTIC THREAD, 150 metres of thread.
I already know how to tie loops by fingers so I might get it work like that?
(btw if anyone's interested I can provide details how to do this)
I too got very annoyed by the Mesikas loops. Really fragile and really really really expensive!

I showed my friend a trick with Mesika's loop, the usual fork business. As I "concentrated" to move the fork, my dear mate went "whoosh" with his hand to see if I have any lines between my hands (even though he did examine my hands at the start, that cynical b*****!), and SNAP! there went my last Mesika loop, costing 2.5 euros. Imagine how I felt! :evil:

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Postby moonbeam » Dec 16th, '07, 20:41

Well, I've never really been a big fan of IT, but I went to Blackpool yesterday and ended up buying some "Mesika's Loops".

I knew they were fairly fragile, so I've been quite careful when handling them, but I've still managed to snap 3 of them in less than a day. I only got a pack of 5, so at £8 ish a pack this could get quite expensive.

I'm def considering buying this - looks like a big money saver and (from what I've read on here) I'm assuming that the thread is alot stronger :shock: .

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Postby TheWickedWitchOfTheWeb » Dec 16th, '07, 21:07

It is definitely worth getting. I ordered some Silkworm from NUMS recently and it's amazing. Add in the fantastic customer service and super quick delivery and it's a winner on all counts (will definitely be using NUMS again in the future).

The beauty I've found with this thread is that not only is it incredibly strong compared to all the other threads I've tried, it is also easily strippable into three thinner strands (unlike the thread I was using which was was a nightmare) and they are also very strong in this state, not to mention, obvioulsy, much thinner which is a bonus. I used the heaviest fork I could find for the animated fork and it coped with it with no problem. Likewise with rising cards, self cutting packs, etc.

I know I probably seem overly enthusiastic but once you try this thread and the STELTH system you'll understand why. Money very well spent.

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Postby Palmer Eldritch » Dec 16th, '07, 22:04

Sounds fantastic! I showed a friend of mine my snazzy new ACR the other day, and his response was; "cool, can you make cards fly?"
Yes I replied, and promptly scaled a card at the b*****. It made me think though, loops would be nice - but the difficulty I've had in making my own IT and the tendency for packaged loops to snap (and the high cost of them) has put me off in the past. This is most likely exactly what I've been looking for. Thanks!

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