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this may sound odd, but ive recently started using a twist i saw in 'the trilogy' with a D/L, instead of just bending it on my thumb, and i think its really effective, as it seems impossible to do that with t.. c...., and also looks nice...

anyhow, does anyone have a way of trying to show t.. c.... as one?

just wonderin...

joecarr14

I really do not understand what you are talking about lol

stevebo wrote:I really do not understand what you are talking about lol

Lol same. T...c... as in Top Change? And what twist in the Trilogy? And bending it on your thumb is that a thumb count? I'm sorry I'm lost

LeftEye wrote:

stevebo wrote:I really do not understand what you are talking about lol

Lol same. T...c... as in Top Change? And what twist in the Trilogy? And bending it on your thumb is that a thumb count? I'm sorry I'm lost

No no, he means t**** c****.

Only joking. I think he means th*** co***.

Hope that helps.

EDIT: actually it's probably just a little too early in the morning, and now that I've read it properly I'm not too sure myself. It's the context.
Can you clear it up Joe?

Ahh see I get it now. He means there's a flourish in the Trilogy that makes a DL look like just one card. Like you twist the DL round your thumb or something.

I could be wrong, but I think Joe may be referring to the DL as done by Blaine on one of his specials (I think he was performing the ACR at the time). You twist the card around and over, using the ball of your thumb as a pivot point. Something like that, anyway. Looks pretty good.

Oz Pearlman does a very similar move on the Color Monte demo on Penguin's website...

http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=185

(About 40 seconds into it)

I like that style of DL, its the one I try to use...I learned it from the ellusionist DVD 'Ultimate AmbitiouXs Card'. I think it looks good as its a kind of flourish as well, and (if you keep it consistent with non DL's) it looks perfectly natural

Dan

That DL was shown to me close to 20 years ago by Gary Oullet. I think it may have originally been a Tony Binerelli move but I'm not sure. Either way I really don't like it. To me it looks like I'm using the base of the thumb to hold something together. But thats just me.

I don't like it really either. Don't know why, might be because I can't push two cards off as one and it was driving me insane . Must be one of the most knackiest knacks ever.

Replicant wrote:I could be wrong, but I think Joe may be referring to the DL as done by Blaine on one of his specials (I think he was performing the ACR at the time). You twist the card around and over, using the ball of your thumb as a pivot point. Something like that, anyway. Looks pretty good.

Oz Pearlman does a very similar move on the Color Monte demo on Penguin's website...

http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=185

(About 40 seconds into it)

thats similar to it but not exactly!! lol ive just come back to read people comments lol, sorry but to clear up i dont know if i was allowed to say 'two cards' as that would show what a D/L involves, i just dont want to get into trouble over something stupid, so i thought better safe than sorry, anyway yeh thats the one, i learnt it from the trilogy and its a real convincer... thats one variation but for clarity, ill put a video up..

LeftEye wrote:I don't like it really either. Don't know why, might be because I can't push two cards off as one and it was driving me insane . Must be one of the most knackiest knacks ever.

It really is a knack and when you find somebody that can actually teach you how they just tell you, "oh yeah, no problem just do this" and they push the bloody thing over like it is the most natural thing in the world.
of course with something like colour monte when it is only three cards to begin with it really isn't that hard just buckle bottom as you would in a buckle count and you are pretty much done.

excuse the crappy cards, atm im a little short so these will do, though it is hard to do decent push off D/L's with these so i thought id play it safe and i wouldnt embarass myself lol... this was the move anyway (i learnt it yesterday, and if its done casually, while talking, i think it just seals the idea theres one card)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VBU_N-CfVY

btw if anyone else does similar stuff feel free to say, thats what this thread was about lol!

Well guys, let me be the bearer of glad tidings - you *don't* have to be able to push off two cards as one. Obviously the closer you can get to this the better, and it will come with practice, but you use the right middle finger to pull down on the cards, squaring them perfectly.

There is a wagon-load of natural cover for this because if you were to do this naturally to take the top card, your left hand lifts the cards towards the right hand which briefly obscures the top surface of the deck. This is vaguely analagous to the way you lift the deck slightly before a pass, but much more natural, because it would happen anyway unless you were trying to handle the cards in the most wooden manner possible.

The angles are great, because the top right hand corner and the right hand side are covered as your right hand comes in.

To start with, practice just spreading the top three, then pick up the top two. As you practice, experiment with pressure until you do push off the top two pretty much as one. But honestly - there is so much cover, you really don't need to be able to push them off exactly. I wish I could find the cable for my camera because I'd do a demo!

This is my favourite DL; it looks slick but not showy, portrays just the right level of "comfortable competence" with cards without blowing your skillz in their faces, looks like you could never do it with more than one card and you have that lovely little click as it comes off the base of your thumb. But best of all, they're square every time, and in a very easy holding position to keep them that way. It also leads into a silky and relaxed turnover, where you rest the edge of the cards in the V between deck and left hand finger tips, and use just your right index finger to gently roll the double over onto the deck. Beautiful.

Ah! I think people are talking about different things then. That's a little showy for my liking but I can see how it would go some way to disguising a DL.