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Struggling with an effect? Any tips (without giving too much away!) you'd like to share?

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Postby magic_chocice » Apr 6th, '04, 18:18



Help please i have just droped my ID on the floor. i need help i have lost the instructions and cannot remember suits. Hope this dosn't give too much away if it does I will edit. Please can someone help. Thankyou

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Postby Mark Waddington » Apr 6th, '04, 18:59

PM me and i will help

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Postby MagicIain » Apr 6th, '04, 19:01

It doesn't matter - just make sure you're consistent with the suits you do choose.

If you need to be reminded, then you didn't know in the first place, so start again and learn it 'your way'!!!

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Postby ste175 » Jun 9th, '04, 15:59

Zack wrote:It doesn't matter - just make sure you're consistent with the suits you do choose.

If you need to be reminded, then you didn't know in the first place, so start again and learn it 'your way'!!!


Yeah, and if you do sort it out differentlyand come up with a good and easy way to remember the kings, please PM me! :lol:

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Postby fletch » Jun 9th, '04, 16:23

Hearts and spades look similar.....

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Postby seige » Jun 9th, '04, 16:33

Base your king orientation on the orientation of the Spade symbol on the deck's tuck box.

Also, if you're looking at ways to improve, try putting the kings further in the pack—and do a similar thing with the common choices—i.e. ace of spades etc.

Mainly, because I find it VERY suspicious when a speccy chooses a card, and it's the one nearest the top of the deck... far better to have them appear in the middle of the pack?

I tend to bury the AS, Kings, Queens, Jacks near the middle.

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Postby Gochos The Greek » Jun 9th, '04, 18:30

This is a question with many answers, as everyone has their preferred way of stacking an ID.

Seige has a point, however my stack contradicts his version to an extent.

My Top and bottom cards on one side is an ace, and on the other side a Queen. I won’t go into more detail here, just incase i get told of for revealing more than I should. :D If anyone would like to know how mine is stacked, don’t hesitate to PM me.

I use the ID in nearly all my performances, and have done for the past 10 years. I have found that the best stack, is the one that helps you remember were all the cards are located. Also you are nearly always performing the ID to Lay People, so no matter what card is at the top, they will not consider it suspicious. Maybe I am wrong with this assumption, but it works for me.

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Postby KODs_righteye » Jun 18th, '04, 15:22

I have also came up with my own clever way to stack my ID, your welcome to use my method, if your interested PM me...

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Postby dat8962 » Oct 15th, '04, 23:12

I still have mine in the same order that it was bought and delivered in and have never had a problem and like Gochos I also use this all of the time.

An absolute classic and must have for the card magician!

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Postby Johnny Bravo » Oct 24th, '04, 05:02

With regard to handling I find that if I spread the deck with dry hands all the face down remain so but I can't get the face up to pop through. No grip.

However if I use QuickSort hand stuff the reverse is in play as too many of the cards show through when spreading through. Does anyone else suffer this?

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Postby Jing » Oct 24th, '04, 20:00

I use Boris Wild's method where pairs add up to 14! and the end cards are 5clubs and 6clubs, so not much to give away, if someone saw it twice.

(Hope i haven't revealed anything)

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