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hi lads and ladesses, not been around much have had alot of troubles with employment, layed off then waiting too long for new job to start etc but am back now,

ive been trying to routine some tricks together instead of doing "quickies" and have put this little ditty together, let m know your thoughts, good bad or plain ugly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4jsQgwCbqE

Well it was very long trick... And I was more excepting the red aces at the end, then the 4 spades.

It was good trick, but maybe to much fiddling around the deck.

Not bad.

I'll give a couple of points before i bu**er off to bed...I'll expand tomorrow if i don't make sense.

Personally, I like it. It has a rough progressive stance, which shall get better with smoothness. I don't, however, like the "mix up the reds and blacks" part...it just doesn't seem to "work". It looks too fishy. Then again, I could be wrong, as I haven;t seen it on a lay audience.

The biggest gripe though, was the "sandwich-steal" move at the end. Why not just do a traditional one, rather than "i'll give it a wave, i'll put both on, i'll take both off"? It doesn't have a "point" to it?

I like the oevrall thing, and with a few tweaks, I could see it as something that you could potentially use often. You have a magician's mind sir! I look forward to it!

pick any card , thanks for the comments and agree it is long, maybe ill take chris's comments and take out the oil and water part, (thanks for the comments beardo) maybe it would be nice for the reds to be sandwiched and the other card to be where the aces are meant to be, hmm will have to work on that, thanks for the constructive crit boys,

and shucks, i have a magicians mind, is that you taking the p155 chris? lol, im off to bed, night guys,

oh and please more critisims, good or bad

honestly, not taking the pi$$!

I mean magician;s mind as in you like to invent stuff, and have a unique style!

man...i must be more tired than i thought...

*chris looks at his itunes bill*

then again...after seeing that (my bill), I may already be dreaming...shizer!

Nice work so far! Your ace production was nice (I have a special love for the VST), direct and to the point. No fuss - it was a good introduction to the overall routine.

Your handling for Daley's Last Trick was VERY smooth. Exceptional work.

Like Beardy, I don't think the Oil and Water section works. To be really effective, I think more than 4 cards need to be used. Your handling for it wasn't the most effective way to perform this - but given the number of cards you're using, it's the best method. Overall, I think you should remove this from the routine. It's not strong enough to stand between the segments you're building.

The Sandwich routine - This is where you start to run into trouble. One - you eliminate the red aces. This may be a personal preference issue, but I feel that more can be done with the 4 aces, rather than trimming down to 2.

As Beard said, there are moments where there is no "point" to the sandwich routine. You place the ace on top of the deck and then do a weird "rubbing" move. Put yourself in the spectator's shoes. Why did you have to do that? It's a move made to look like a non-move. As Beard suggested, the traditional sandwich routine would have fit this VERY well.

I have on suggestion for you, for a possible replacement to this particular sandwich routine. Check out Peter Duffie's England Close Up ebook. Aside from being packed with a huge amount of tricks, it has one of my all-time favorite sandwich routines, from the brilliant mind of David Britland. The effect is called Progressive Jacks. Given that none of the ads really go into detail on the nature of the effect, I won't go into it here. It's a brilliant effect - so if you want to know more, pm me about it.

You have the start of a strong routine here. Your handling is very good thus far, so really you just need to work on your sandwich routine and refine your patter. Once you have those, you'll have a great routine on your hands. Excellent work!