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VoodooMick wrote:

Johnny Wizz wrote:I don't know much about the prop you are talking about but I could if I wanted probably afford to buy it.

Lend us a tenner mate!

When I said I could probably afford to buy this I meant that technically I could probably find the money.However, in the real world I have a financial manager called Mrs Wizz who scrutinises every magic item that comes in to the house. Mrs W does not know exactly how much some items cost but she would notice the hole that a UFO would make in the bank balance.

Call me a coward, but thats not a conversation I (or anyone else) would want to have with my wife. So my claim that I could buy this was more theoretical than practical.

As for lending tenners to strangers...... Mrs Wizz will be in touch - you have been warned

the great suprendo wrote:live music is dead and buried in comaprison to what it used to be . bars and clubs only have to employ one person "mc" to play a lot of electronic tripe to them ..instead of paying a band to play real music ..
synthesizer can empower a true musician , but can also render him somewhat obsolete when relative noobies can come up with astounding results by using samples of other peoples songs etc..

Is live music really dead? Or is it just that the bottom end of the spectrum that got cleared out for some more cost- and space-effective backing tapes?
Is electronic tripe or a collection of samples a substitute for proper live music?
There are some great records that use samples but they're not the same genre as a live record. I think there is room for it all! The only people that suffer are those at the bottom end of the spectrum.

I don't think a beginner can render a true musician obsolete with "astouding" results by using samples. The beginner will impress himself but not many others.

Scared this is going way off topic.. apologies!!

Live music certainly isn't dead, I used to play fiddle in a folk-punk band. We'd play a gig at least once a week, we'd use the odd recorded backing but only to enhance what we were performing.

You can walk through the town on a Saturday or Friday night and always find a pub playing live music. Many people actually want to go somewhere that live music is playing rather than a disco so I'd say that live music is probabaly healthier than it's been for a long time.

I love a good fiddle


Sorry couldn't resist

I've not fiddled fo a while, I need to buy a new G string first

This is gold....


Any way with all due respect I think the great suprendo hasnt really got a clue about the way mentalism works. Most of his post seem to be a challange to people who know a touch more then him.

yeh , i kinda understand the basics of mentalism and i can handle maybe having stooges etc as par for the course ,i fer sure dont know much , i know the jay sankey notepad kinda mentalism , switching rolled up papers and having half the notepad with a lastic band round it to hide the fact the front page is *****magic secret***** , the mentalists secret pencil and the mathematical oddities that occur in some puzzles , then the psychological side of mentalism , body language etc , i have also studied hypsnosis ..which is kinda off the mark ...but people like derren brown would have u believe his is a mixture of hypnosis and mentalism , but im not so sure ..probably more suggestion than hypnosis ...if theres a diffrence

Lady of Mystery wrote:I've not fiddled fo a while, I need to buy a new G string first

Ah there you have it! I used to own a synthesiser with a button marked "violin" on it. No need to worry about G Strings breakin... oh I've just got the joke!... oh you dirty people!! disgusting!

Anyhow.. I'm off to get ready shortly for a singing gig tonite. And the irony is I'm using backing tracks and am greatful that there's a lot of ghost vocal on the backing track 'cos I have a sore throat as I think I'm fighting off a bug!

lol have fun

the great suprendo wrote:..... maybe having stooges etc as par for the course ....

No stooges for me matey - never have used them, never will.

I think you find there are very few Mentalists who use stooges, they tend to appear rather obvious.

blimey this really IS a fast moving thread! it's almost a chatroom. Thanks for your wishes, Supprendo

Totally Mental wrote:

the great suprendo wrote:..... maybe having stooges etc as par for the course ....

No stooges for me matey - never have used them, never will.

I think you find there are very few Mentalists who use stooges, they tend to appear rather obvious.

Yeap I agree with mental except now mental has my close-up act the swine!

You do get crys of that though "oh its a set up etc" Osterlind has a line

"Its important that you know I didnt set anything up ahead of time"

I would add to that "If I did could you please leave" for the heckler who would shout out "Me"

hey mental im intrested to hear yours or anyones views on people like derek acorah ..you know spiritualists and whether they could use technical means to glean information to do alleged readings from beyond the grave , maybe use stooges in the que outside to get names of people or overhear conversations then relay the information somehow?

gettin all randi now

Now you have opened a can of worms my man.

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic22327-0-asc-0.php

Happy reading there is 14 pages of it.

2 words.

Cold Reading.

And within that I include any information gleaned beforehand by reading guest lists, overhearing conversations, pumping for information etc.

Ask the Wand.