Ideal Routine that controls hecklers

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Ideal Routine that controls hecklers

Postby Project_Infinity » Jan 19th, '08, 06:47



Can anyone give me a few tips on an ideal closer that nails big reactions but can be performed entirely surrounded...Somehow those damn hecklers won't keep their mouths shut...makes me feel like my closer wasn't powerful enough to silence them...

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Jan 19th, '08, 10:13

that depend alot on what type of magic you're performing. Depending on what I'm doing, I'll usually finish with a 2 in the hand 1 in the pocket, a silly load or a flash vanish.

The best thing to do if you're having problems with hecklers is to just walk away.

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Postby TheAlkhemist07 » Jan 19th, '08, 11:44

I would agree with Lady of Mystery if your bein heckled just walk away....

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Postby Peter Marucci » Jan 19th, '08, 11:57

Project Infinity is looking for the "ideal closer" that's strong enough to deal with hecklers.

I think the thing is to determine whether they are real hecklers, bent on disrupting and ruining your show, or whether they are well-meaning people who think your show needs help and are trying to give it.

Real hecklers are extremely rare; no one is likely to encounter two of them in a lifetime (and I say this after more than half a century of performing for the public).

So it may be your show, or at least your closing trick, that needs work and not your audiences. What are you closing with at the moment?

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Postby Project_Infinity » Jan 20th, '08, 09:25

Thanks Guys But in all honesty these are those typical pain in the @$$es that just won't leave like a bad odor....its usually in a situation where ur just surrounded and no matter how hard u try to keep spacing them out they just keep gettin closer.

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Postby Soren Riis » Jan 20th, '08, 10:35

Maybe

"hand to face"

followed by

"knee to stomach"

as a closer


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Postby IAIN » Jan 20th, '08, 14:34

or the now imfamous, submachine gun fired into the crowd routine...that'll keep them quiet...
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Postby TheJWalker » Jan 21st, '08, 20:41

Can anyone give me a few tips on an ideal closer that nails big reactions but can be performed entirely surrounded...Somehow those damn hecklers won't keep their mouths shut...makes me feel like my closer wasn't powerful enough to silence them...


If your being heckled work on your confidence, patter, and authority. Of course if as bad as you say then nothing you do is going to matter, they don't want to be entertained. I recommend a few tricks during your show that make it look like you messed up but has a spectacular ending. Also there are several versions of producing money from fruit that can be performed surrounded. I suggest using the one in Wilson's Complete Course on Magic, if you can't control the crowd don't try to use the Magician's choice with the fruit, just be sure that you can have uncontroversial proof that it was the borrowed dollar in the fruit (whether it was or not). Wilson provides an outstanding method for this.

If all else fails. . .FLASH PAPER TO THE FACE! That'll shut them up.

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Postby KingJeux. » Jan 22nd, '08, 21:53

There's a good routine in Sessions if you are interested. It's also a fantastic all around book, so I'd suggest looking into that.

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Postby dat8962 » Jan 22nd, '08, 21:58

For my next trick I'd like someone to help me perform a bullet catch and it's your lucky day - stand over there while I get the gun!

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Postby TheMaskedMagician » Jan 22nd, '08, 22:09

I tend to get hecklers as well.

They aren't happy unless they've examined the deck of cards if I'm card trick-ing.

Even when they have it's "oh, I bet you've hidden it now"

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Postby I.D » Jan 23rd, '08, 00:21

I use the bounce no bounce balls for hecklers.

I talk some rubbish about before modern day advances within the medical field, there was a belief held by some rather respected doctors that to test a mans sperm count, they would judge the level of sperm created by how high the ball bounced.

And when the heckler throws the ball to the ground expecting it to shoot miles into the air, the look on his face when it thuds into the ground and does nothing... is priceless.

I then put my hand on his shoulder.. sigh and softly say 'It can happen to any one of us mate.. I understand'

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Postby magicmonkey » Jan 23rd, '08, 12:02

There's a do as I do style effect that can be good for difficult speccys.

Basically they choose 4 of 8 cards that you are holding.

One at a time you both put a card to the bottom, turn one over, another to bottom, turn the pack over and turn another card over.

Every time all of your cards are face down, but theirs are face up and face down.
As a final phase, you give your cards to a more friendly spec and again they go through the card turning sequence. Less troublesome spec has all cards face down, but yet again heckle chops is having problems following simple instructions.

Unfortunately I cannot for the life of me remember the name of this effect, but I believe there are a few versions out there, the one I learnt being from Mark Worgan's lecture.

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Postby greedoniz » Jan 23rd, '08, 12:14

magicmonkey wrote:There's a do as I do style effect that can be good for difficult speccys.

Basically they choose 4 of 8 cards that you are holding.

One at a time you both put a card to the bottom, turn one over, another to bottom, turn the pack over and turn another card over.

Every time all of your cards are face down, but theirs are face up and face down.
As a final phase, you give your cards to a more friendly spec and again they go through the card turning sequence. Less troublesome spec has all cards face down, but yet again heckle chops is having problems following simple instructions.

Unfortunately I cannot for the life of me remember the name of this effect, but I believe there are a few versions out there, the one I learnt being from Mark Worgan's lecture.


Is it this routine you describe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD3zPLJSU0w

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Postby magicmonkey » Jan 23rd, '08, 14:29

Yes, good find greedo that's the one!

As a final kicker with a small change it is possible as a final phase to have someone else do it with your cards...perfect for a couple where the bloke is being a bit of an idiot, i.e. he can't do it no matter how hard he tries, then give your cards to his girlfriend/wife, and she does it first time no problem!
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