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Hey guys, this is my first vid with card production please have a look and se if you can give me some tips of handeling and so on. All comments and tips are welcome!
Card/Fan production ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmyRSSILATE

Theres also some older tricks on ---> www.youtube.com/naskwall


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Beefeater

Your back palm is awesome really quite fantastic!

With your older tricks you seem slightly awkward when handleing the TT.
Instead of poking it to the back of your hand and then stealing why not justpoke in with your thumb and stealafter the steal continue to poke it down a couple more times then open your hand!

No-one notices.
One other must with the TT is allways have your audience facing your...whereas in your video the audience has a slightly elevated and sideways veiw which would give away the TT.

Hope you find that helpful!!

So right you are, everything seems so unatural with the tt on....Your advice is good and i also think i will need to practise more...but that was actually the first trick i recorded and also the first trick i've learned using a TT so even i myself must say that my handeling with the tt is a lot better now.

Good stuff.
Have you got 101 tricks with a TT.
Its quite good some novel ideas in there...

The fans production are great man.

very good work indeed, there was something in the single card productions i didnt like but i cant say much im not really good at it anyhow. But some cards seem to come from behind the hand and thats not what you want i think.

As for the appear between the hands, i really liked the idea and i think it has a lot of potential.

Keep up the good work its fun to watch.

I think it's really hard to get the ilusion of the card getting pulled out from the air..you are right it really looks like it comes from the back of my hand. What is the best way, the best timing to creat the illsuion?
Some say the pullback og the hand is very crusial and some say it's the angle of the hand..

does anyone have a good tip?

Well, I'm no expert at card productions, but in the video it seems like your fingers bend at the moment a card is produced.

I can't say for sure if you slightly bend your fingers or it only looks like that in the video, but when i produce a single card all my fingers don't move at all, except for a slight movement of the index finger (and the thumb ofcourse, otherwise it would become very difficult to get a card )

Also, to create the illusion of the card appearing from nowhere, instead of the back of your hand, i make a small motion with the hand moving upwards and at the moment the card is almost completely produced i flick the hand down a bit. It's not a big movement, just a small waving motion coming from the wrist, moving only a bit with the arm.

Also try to keep the moving of the index finger while producing the card as small and quick as possible. The same goes for the thumb that flicks the card from backpalm to full view, try to get it as fast as possible so it is almost impossible to see where the card came from. If i would just produce card after card as fast as possible i can produce 3 to 4 cards in a second. With smooth cards that is, once the cards get old they stick together and producing cards slows down then. Not that producing cards this fast is useful for a card production routines, that just looks ugly. When producing cards you should take it slow, pausing after a produced card, but the production itself should be fast.

Hope this helps a bit. If you want to know more about card manipulations i can recommend the Jeff McBride 'Art of Card Manipulation' DVD series (if you don't already own it)

Got jeff mcbride vol 1,2 and 3. Quite good stuff there i recon..
Thx a lot for your advice...Really good!
Is there any point in using fan powder?? I've never used it...does it help when manipulating cards?

I have tried fanning powder, but i don't like it. It makes the cards stick together a bit. With the powder on the cards you have less change of gap between the cards when fanning, but for manipulations you want the cards as smooth as possible. But since Jeff uses fanning powder on the instruction video of how to prepare the cards, so it could also be that i just got bad fanning powder ... There was just a strange feel to the cards after powdering them.

You say it feels like the cards stick togeather more arent fanning powder supposed to make the cards smoother? almost slippery?

That's what i thought it would do. The way the powder sticks to the cards give them a bit of a rougher feel. For fanning it means each cards pulls a bit on the next, creating a evenly spreaded fan. There is much less change of some cards slipping away when not enough or too much pressure is applied while fanning, so it does what it says; fanning powder makes the cards fan better. As i wrote in my previous post, it is not what you want for manipulations. When you produce a card and the next one comes along with it, it screws up the production sequence. It's not that hard to fix, but you want to avoid it happening at all.

I also wrote in my previous post that maybe it's just the brand of powder i have. I wanted to check what brand it was, but i can't seems to find it anymore . I also heard that magnesium powder, the same stuff used in gymnastics to get a better grip, can be used to make cards smoother. Don't know if this is true, maybe someone on these boards know if that works.

The cards is use for manipulations are not powdered. They are regular bikes. I don't prepare them. I just take about 10 new cards and start backpalming and producing them. In the beginning they will spring away because they are too stiff for manipulations. Eventually they will loosen up. You can just feel when they are right for you to manipulate. Then i take some more and do the same till i have the amount of cards i want to use. When the cards get too worn out to manipulate, i just throw them away. Old decks that are not usable for card tricks any more are often still good enough to use as manipulation cards for some time.

I also tried special manipulation cards, but i don't like them. They are very thin, making it easy to fold or tear them. They cost more than regular cards, but wear out just as fast, or maybe even faster because they are so thin. Also the ones i had were bridge sized cards. I prefer poker sized cards for manipulations, they just have a bit more room to grip them in backpalm.

Hey bundy! I suppose you've seen the Mcbride carmanipulation films.
Did you find the material there useful`? The backpalming was pretty easy to learn but have you got the hold of the perfect production? I just cant get it to work propperly, the cards keep popping out of my grip i just cant seem to get the palm method right....holding the cards low. Do you have any advice about the perfect production? if you have mastered it that will say? or maby anyone else?

Can't help you out with the perfect production.
I just checked the McBride DVD and I do it the same as Jeff shows it in the movie about this production. Only thing I can think of is maybe you put too much pressure on the cards while holding them. The more tension there is on the cards, the faster they will spring out of your grip, especially when the cards are really smooth.

I'm perfect producing cards right now too see if I can give some more help ...
wait, just found something I do different than Jeff in the video. The grip Jeff uses for the perfect production has the cards clipped between the palm and the middle finger, leaving the index finger and thumb free for the production and the other fingers don't tough the cards at all. The way I hold the cards for perfect productions use the ring finger also to hold the cards in place.
There are 2 reasons for me to change the grip a bit:
1. When using smooth cards they slip away sometimes when using too much or too little pressure in the grip. The ring finger prevents that.
2. I also use the ring finger to pull the cards back a bit. Sometimes when using only the middle finger to grip the cards I thought I could see the corners at the other end of the cards when practicing in front of a mirror. By pulling the cards back a bit more with the ring finger the cards are hiding further back into the palm, giving more cover of the hand.

Remember, the DVDs just show how a move works and how the teacher, in this case Jeff McBride, does the move. This does not mean it is how you must do the move. You can always adjust some things to make it work for you.

I learned all the productions from these DVDs too. I think they are excellent if you want to learn manipulations with cards. I can't compare it to other DVDs that show you the same material because I’ve never seen others. What I do know is that I once saw a promotional video for DVDs like the McBride series. During the promotion video I saw several card flashes, I thought the back palm productions were of beginner skill level. And I don't think I’m so skilful at all, but the promo video was just bad.

You can see the skill of a performer when he makes the pivot move. Jeff does it with a small motion of the hand. Then there is no room for mistakes while making the pivot move, anything wrong in your timing and the cards will flash. Sometimes you see a performer make the pivot move with a wide circle motion of the entire arm. While doing this your hand disappears behind the body for a moment. That is the moment these performers make the pivot move. Any screw-up will be hidden by your body. That is just the way the pivot move was made in that promo video I mentioned. The DVDs said: 'learn from the pro'. I thought: 'learn from someone who thinks he is a pro'.

i cant beleive that

im actually convinced you can backpalm 3 decks or something

That is what is so beutiful about the manipulation! nice that u liked it!