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Hi,

Can anyone out there help me with the 'Frustration' move also sometimes called the Elmsley Count?

Thanks Guys & Gals,

Tomdom

Frustration move - that's funny.

First up, the Elmsley Count, or the Ghost Count is not the same as the Flustration cout which is what I assume you meant when you said Frustration. Having sid that dear Alex must have frustrated many people with his count - so maybe you are right after all.

I assume it is the Elmsley you are wantting to help with (Counting four cards whilst hiding one?) and not the Flustration Count, (apparently showing 4 cards, but actually only showing one).

If it is Elmsley, then look no further than http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic23721.php

This download is perhaps the best place I have seen for teaching the move.

If it is the Flustration you are after - then that is relatively easy. May I ask the effect you wish to do that uses teh count? as tht would help us know what the actual count is you need help with.

good luck.

this might assist

Hi Banafish,

Glad You liked the 'frustration' quip!

The effect I'm practicing at the mo is Greg Wilson's 'Flat Out Monte' on Vol 2 of Greg Wilson in Action. In the middle of his routine he executes the flustration move but not in a way I found easy to follow.

Your help would be appreciated!

Tomdom