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Hey guys

Can you tell me which variation of ID you like better?

1) The classic, where you ask the spectator to flip a card in an "ID", then shuffle, then you open your deck and show them?

Or

2) You have 2 decks. Have the spectator turn over a card in the deck, then you pull out your deck (the trick deck) and show them the same card is flipped over.



Thanks!

Hi Nightmare.

There a dozens of effects with the ID that are better than this one - just do a search on the ID to find them.

There are many presentations and ideas that are covered in some depth although some may be in the magician's only area.

Personally, the only presentation that I've seen and liked that uses a non gimmicked deck along side the ID is the one on the snooker / pool table that Paul Zennon did in his Christmas show. The regular deck is spread out face down on the table and the cue ball is hit around the table off a few cushions. When the cue ball stops, this is the card turned face down in the ID.

dat8962 wrote:Personally, the only presentation that I've seen and liked that uses a non gimmicked deck along side the ID is the one on the snooker / pool table that Paul Zennon did in his Christmas show. The regular deck is spread out face down on the table and the cue ball is hit around the table off a few cushions. When the cue ball stops, this is the card turned face down in the ID.

I seem to remember him using a force deck for this one. It seems to simple too be true but the camera would have cut away before the participant asked to see the faces of all the other cards on the table.

If it is a different clip you've seen it is still a good presentation of the ID but the one I saw was as described above.

Russ
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Given those choices I like the first. Let the spectator use some imagination. I'm not sure of the point of carrying around two decks of cards with out any real gain for the effect. Plus part of the idea is that a spectator just thinks of a card.

Nightmare wrote:1) The classic, where you ask the spectator to flip a card in an "ID", then shuffle, then you open your deck and show them?

Or

2) You have 2 decks. Have the spectator turn over a card in the deck, then you pull out your deck (the trick deck) and show them the same card is flipped over.

If you think about it, an ID is really the target of a chosen card revelation, so you can work backwards from it to an awful lot of set ups. That's the brilliant thing about it. Let your imagination run free!

I like the ID as a "plan B", if you know what I mean.

If you've got one in your bag it is literally impossible to mess up a location trick. You can only temporarily appear to have messed up

Check out Steve Bedwell's MD Not Required for an interesting use of the ID that includes two empty pot noodles!

It is really cool as well.

There is a way i been exploring for a while wich i really like, it involve a D.Switch and an easy setup.

So basicly i ask someone or i do it myself, to take a card then i turn the deck around and we place the card back inside the deck without anyone have looked at the card.

I then ask the spectator to think of a card only 1 card and to name it loud.

Somehow every time they name the same card they had turned around previously...

The ID is a fascinating deck that has great potential. I have seen people literally present it as "Think of a card, what was it?" "Oh look its the only one in the deck face down." A poor poor presentation that quite clearly involves some kind of gimmick.

Then take a look at Bill Malones version, very similar, there is no real difference to the presentation, yet it takes 5 minutes, yes FIVE minutes.

SHowmanship at its best.

queen of clubs wrote:I like the ID as a "plan B", if you know what I mean.

If you've got one in your bag it is literally impossible to mess up a location trick. You can only temporarily appear to have messed up

I really like that, how do you explain/hide the fact that your pulling out a new "completely normal deck of cards"?

Theres a few simple ways, going into your pocket to grab a pen for signing, which if done quickly and without missing a beat is very deceptive. I believe there is a gimmick card case that is good for switches, can't remember the name though!

ArcticBanana wrote:

queen of clubs wrote:I like the ID as a "plan B", if you know what I mean.

If you've got one in your bag it is literally impossible to mess up a location trick. You can only temporarily appear to have messed up

I really like that, how do you explain/hide the fact that your pulling out a new "completely normal deck of cards"?

I don't hide it at all. I've actually only ever had to do this once, and I just said "This seriously isn't your card? You're not messing me around? I don't believe you for a second - what was your card?"

Then they said what it was, and I shook my head and said "That's not possible, darling, this deck doesn't even have a *insert whatever card they said* in it!"

You can guess the rest.

Check this one out from our very own Magic Mark.

The ID taken to a ten minute performance with a classic routine.


http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic23719-0-0-asc-.php

1) The classic, where you ask the spectator to flip a card in an "ID", then shuffle, then you open your deck and show them?