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Postby tomprocter92 » Apr 4th, '08, 17:33



Learn some of the easy forces like the hindu force and the riffle force that would be a good thing to have learnt

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Postby queen of clubs » Apr 4th, '08, 17:33

GaryGrace wrote:I'm false shuffling, although it is avery crude top to bottom etc shuffle with no jogging involved.


Can you explain what you mean by that? (without getting into exposure, of course!)

I've never heard of a "crude" shuffle that maintains the order of the deck! If you're appearing to shuffle and the deck ends up in the same order, that is surely far from crude.

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Postby spudgun » Apr 4th, '08, 17:44

how many crude shuffling jokes did i just make up........answer? hundreds! lol :D

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Postby Replicant » Apr 4th, '08, 18:12

The Charlier shuffle springs to mind; a good alternative to simply giving the deck a straight cut.

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Postby GaryGrace » Apr 4th, '08, 18:29

queen of clubs wrote:
GaryGrace wrote:I'm false shuffling, although it is avery crude top to bottom etc shuffle with no jogging involved.


Can you explain what you mean by that? (without getting into exposure, of course!)

I've never heard of a "crude" shuffle that maintains the order of the deck! If you're appearing to shuffle and the deck ends up in the same order, that is surely far from crude.


very simple stuff like having the card placed on top, or using a break to take it to the bottom then back up again. just a single card.

I've been using the Hindu force, I like that, very simple but effective.

Playing with the glide as we speak, managing to hide any finger movement quite well but the top card occasionally moves.

Is this a good example of the pass?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mieC6Fd_vfs

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Postby queen of clubs » Apr 4th, '08, 19:11

GaryGrace wrote:Is this a good example of the pass?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mieC6Fd_vfs


Absolutely not. The guy is moving like he's had 20 cups of coffee, he's using borderless Bee cards to hide the move, his arms are tense and his covering hand is moving far too much during the move.

That is an example of someone who will develop a fantastic pass as soon as they realise that speed has nothing to do with the pass.

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Postby Replicant » Apr 4th, '08, 20:04

See this link for a rather fine example of how a good pass should look...

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic23982.php

(queen of clubs, if you PM me I'll give you my address where you can send the cheque...) :wink:

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Postby monker59 » Apr 4th, '08, 21:22

I think the p**lming is an excellent card sleight because it can be so easy to master. Really, the only thing you have to work on when p**lming is dealing with stiffness.

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Postby EckoZero » Apr 4th, '08, 21:31

I'll agree p**ming is handy too.
I showed an amateur mage friend a trick and told him it uses p**ming (he said he didn't need to learn it) and he didn't spot it at all.
Invisible miracles - right in the palm of your hand :wink:

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Postby GaryGrace » Apr 4th, '08, 22:32

I've been trying to palm, but struggle with stiffness as I always do when learning things, I tense up; was the same years ago learning guitar, same now learning Kendo and Magic. Got a two hour bus ride to the highlands tomorrow, lots of practice to be had :D

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Postby Replicant » Apr 5th, '08, 00:35

Innuendo...bingo...must...resist...

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Postby Tony Hyams » Apr 5th, '08, 00:53

I use the pass all the time, I like it as it just looks so clean. other moves would be a force, a false shuffle and a colour change

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Postby Arkesus » Apr 5th, '08, 01:55

Just thinking about where you want your card magic to go, if you have:

one force
one control to top
one control to bottom
one colour change
one DL
one false shuffle

that you can do well, you have the makings of thousands of possible effects. Royal Road will get you there for these and more.

If you enjoy it enough and you want to get serious about your card magic may I recommend Card College by Roberto Giobbi. It's a 5 volume set, that goes into more detail than most medical journals. I have found it to be truly priceless and a welcome addition to my library.

Time Magazines Person Of The Year 2006.
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Postby Farlsborough » Apr 5th, '08, 14:34

EckoZero wrote:I'll agree p**ming is handy too.
I showed an amateur mage friend a trick and told him it uses p**ming (he said he didn't need to learn it) and he didn't spot it at all.
Invisible miracles - right in the palm of your hand :wink:


I thought you were going to say "I showed a friend a trick and told him it uses palming, he was very impressed. Of course, it doesn't..." :twisted:


I agree, palming is great, and 80% of it is just having the cajones to go for it - when you do you'll never look back. I think there's plenty that Gary should look at first, but when the time comes...

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Postby bmat » Apr 7th, '08, 00:36

Top change, one of the most used has to be be the DL, mostly due to Ambitious Card. Throw in a good top change to throw everyone off the scent also great for finger on card and colour changes. Gamblers cop. Often overlooked has a multitude of uses and is great if the audience is burning your hands and you are afraid to use a top palm.

And for 'insert favourite diety here' just learn to handle a deck of cards with some style, elegance and finesse.

But by far the absolute best sleight is the one that is going to work for you. Choose an effect that you want to perform. With that learn the necessary workings. Everything else is just a waste. Why spend years perfecting Gary Kurtz's fingertip longnitudinal palm when you will never use it in an effect?

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