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Close up cards: Control

Postby harimau » Apr 13th, '08, 21:10



Hello to everyone

Heres another video of close up card control. I saw a clip of ricky jay on youtube doing a far better version (take a look if you havent already), thought I'd have a go with variations. I had to eliminate scape cuts and up the ladders, because my video camera couldnt pick them up.

Any comments/feedback always appreciated.

Heres the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLRMjiOvBwk

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Postby queen of clubs » Apr 13th, '08, 23:11

Hmmm, ok. I think, with the correct patter, that would blow the mind of a layperson, but there's only so many times I can see the same averagely executed false shuffles before I lose interest.

There were quite a few occasions where you seemed to pause for a comparitively huge amount of time, which looks weird considering there's supposed to be "nothing going on"...

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Postby Tenko » Apr 13th, '08, 23:45

Also, a lot of times where the deck is completely hidden from sight. I hate shuffles where you can't see the cards at all.

My personal view is that it is boring. It goes on and on where you cut and manipulate the cards to reveal yet another, then another, then another. I was bored by the time you had got to 5 or 6 but you kept going on till 13.

I think you need to reduce the boring flourishes and get on with producing the cards. If I'd seen you doing that in a pub I'd have been off to the bar by the 6th reveal, then I'd have missed your big finish.

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Postby harimau » Apr 13th, '08, 23:48

Thanks for the feedback

I agree with you on the shuffling, it does get a bit tedious. I had to eliminate two shuffles because they rely on the audio aspect to sell the shuffle, also dont like the zarrow or shank on film. However there are plenty of others out there, so I guess no excuses!

I'll have to make the productions more snappy by structuring the routine better.

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Postby stevebo » Apr 14th, '08, 02:01

Not bad :-). Just too fiddly I think. Not sure if you have seen Benjamin Earl's Past Midnight trailer. If you haven't search it on Youtube. It's very fluid and consistent.

If you are doing this type of manipulation, it's clearly "showing off", so you might as well practice until you are completely perfect with the shuffling and stuff so that everything looks smooth. I don't know whether you tried to be sloppy in some parts, but it's not necessary if you were.

And don't really bother listening to what I'm saying because I'm very very very tired lol.

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Postby harimau » Apr 14th, '08, 21:16

I wanted to stay away from being neat and precise, and lean more towards a lennart green sort of "sloppyness", but it just looks strange!

The more I view the video, the more I can see where there could be improvements. Which I guess is a good thing.

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Postby stevebo » Apr 15th, '08, 01:18

It's definitely good that you can see your own faults. Don't get me wrong, because your card control is great. But as long as you can see your own faults, you can improve much more.

I absolutely love Lennart Green's sloppiness style. But I think it works much better with patter.

I think the thing is, you seem to be mixing BOTH the sloppiness AND neatness, which creates a sort of mixed skill level. Try to be consistent :-).

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