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How much does this cost, i might get it

Davidbod,
Just been on your website and had a look at the media section, how come you were involved in the millionaire fraud?
just out of interest

Whoa, I wasn't INVOLVED in the Millionaire fraud! I work in the game show industry and was invited to proffer an opinion about it.

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nt mean that i thaught you were rubbing shoulders with Ingram. Im gelous of u coz youve been on telly and i havent................only kidding!

It must be cool being involved with game shows!

The web gets an amazing reaction. Spectator's don't feel the load but if they realise how you got it there, when all is revealed... Then they are still amazed by the cards.
The final surprise always gets them.

In deference to our Hosts, may I suggest you check out http://www.emagictricks.co.uk/product_i ... ts_id=1131 and have your £10.95 ready!

Also a Search for The Web above will show all the previous threads where this was discussed at great length and might be useful. As you all say, it's a killer trick, quite easy once you know what's supposed to be happening - just make sure you aren't in the way when your punter leaps 4 feet into the air and makes a dash for the nearest exit!

There's nothing like dragging an old thread back into the limelight! I was just wondering if anyone had thought about using this but allied to your friendly neighbourhood Spiderman? As the second film is out and in the news, something along the lines of:

“Spiderman’s a great hero but absolute rubbish at house keeping! Look at all the spider’s webs in his room; just wave your hand over the cards to clean them away.” (And you know how the rest will go!)

Perhaps not for kids but the adults who know about Spiderman may fall for it.

I hate to be the wet blanket here, but you should understand that many, many people are arachnophobic. Personally, I used to have several tarantulas as pets, spiders don't bother me at all.

Sad thing, most people think that all spiders should be killed. But, really, that's a different story.

What I'm getting at here is that this particular effect can be psychologically hurtful to many people. To tell you the truth, spiders get a bad enough rap without magicians freaking people out with their tricks.

I believe that Peter Marucci has come up with an effect, based on this one, only it is a butterfly that winds up on the back of the spectator's hand (as Paul Frost has already pointed out). The same effect, the same reaction but without the extreme phobia that is associated with arachnids.

I would strongly suggest that extreme care be taken when showing this particular trick. As one poster has already stated:

I did this on my cousin and made her cry. She noticed before I got round to revealing it to her and she started screaming and smashing her hand off everything.

Mike.

It's another reason to try to get an idea of you spectators before you go into something like this. Obviously it is not going to be easy to ascertain if someone is severely arachnophobic during a card routine!

On the other hand most people with mild phobias quite enjoy the rush after a big scare so if you do it with a bit of sense there is the oppertunity for some very good reactions and strong momories for your audience.

I'm sure one of the Old Forum threads went into this aspect - careful selection of your audience and spectator is always important otherwise things can go pear shaped.

Having said that, due to a rank inability to set the VCR correctly (!), I saw only the last few minutes of a David Copperfield TV special last year where they just showed the Web reveals he did to several women in the theatre audience. (OK, I know that sounds filthy but you know what I mean!) They were all shocked but, as they were seated next to friends and colleagues, they all had a good laugh. Only if I was really sure of the right reaction would I do this as a serious effect, all other times would be played for laughs as much as possible without destroying the point of the effect.

As it the case that I still have my Grandfather's axe, my Father put a new head on it and I've just fitted a new handle, changing the spider for something else is always an option but it also means changing the cards so you've ended up with something completely different. I have heard of one occasion where a plastic cockroach was used but I don't think it would be something which would catch on all that much!

On the other hand most people with mild phobias quite enjoy the rush after a big scare so if you do it with a bit of sense there is the oppertunity for some very good reactions and strong momories for your audience.

I think Nick your on very dangerous territory if you try and take advantage of what you consider to be a mild phobia. My advice never mess with people's fear as you really can't control the result and more worrying often neither can they.

I must admit I have stopped performing the web, mostly for those reasons. I have never really been comfortable with "shock" magic anyway, and I also don't do any of the "knife thru arm", "needle thru tongue" type effects for the same reason. I want to entertain and astonish people, but not make them feel bad.

I am not saying that other people shoudln't do these things, but just that it's not for me.

In saying that I do like the principle, and now the closest I come is using a tiny card as a novel way of revealing a selection. Which again have the same "surprise" element without the shock.

HappyToad wrote:I think Nick your on very dangerous territory if you try and take advantage of what you consider to be a mild phobia. My advice never mess with people's fear as you really can't control the result and more worrying often neither can they.

I do not try to take advantage of what I consider to be a mild phobia, I would only do something like this if I knew it to be mild. I am not a psychologist and would take a persons word for their fears. As it happens I do not use the web anyway, but the point I was making is that people like to be slightly scared occasionally. If they didn't then rollercoasters would never have been invented. I would never do this based on my own judgement unless I knew a person well.

Sorry Nick, I wasn't having a go, but I am trained in dealing with Phobia's and believe me it's best just not to go there. A trick like this can scare a regular person, let alone someone with a phobia about spiders.

I believe that Peter Marucci has come up with an effect, based on this one, only it is a butterfly that winds up on the back of the spectator's hand

Have a look at http://www.magicbox.uk.com/product.php/930/00077/ which is Caterpillar Love.

According to the writeup

Three cards are shown while the story of how a caterpillar turns into a cocoon then a butterfly is told. Each card illustrates a phase of the story except for the final cards shown, where everyone expects a butterfly there is none. The spectator is asked to wave his hands over the cards, and as he does a beautiful imitation butterfly appears on the back of his hand. Complete with colour cards and a feather butterfly.

Current price is £10.67 plus p&p.