Three Card Routine Revelation Woes!

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Three Card Routine Revelation Woes!

Postby Lenoir » Jul 11th, '08, 14:02



Slowly developing a three card routine, nothing too flashy...three cards are FREELY selected, signed etc etc, returned to the deck and each revealed in a different manner. No long Derren-esque routines to be found here!

I can control the cards to the bottom or the top, or even a mixture of both, so that's fine, but I really need a couple of nice revelations!

Originally I did a deadcut, which is okay but not too visually stimulating.

Followed by the 10-20 force of the second persons card

And finally the last card is face up in a face down deck. Not terrible, but it really lacks oomph!

Any suggestions me hearties?

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Postby dimabbq » Jul 11th, '08, 14:35

1. Benzais
2. Long distance spinner
3. Card to pocket

My personal choice.

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Postby TheAlkhemist07 » Jul 11th, '08, 15:03

You have expert card technique?

The section on revelations is good (just skimmed thru it)

Nice things like under a magazine, and all very simple.

So you could have a whole routine were the cards have escaped from the pack....

hope that helps!
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Postby greedoniz » Jul 11th, '08, 15:17

selections go to three seperate pockets followed by a deck vanish apart from the three cards in question as a finale?

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Postby Lenoir » Jul 11th, '08, 17:16

You have expert card technique?

The section on revelations is good (just skimmed thru it)


Thanks Alkhemist, didn't even notice that was in there, liking the look of some of it!

selections go to three seperate pockets followed by a deck vanish apart from the three cards in question as a finale?


I would quite like three different revelations to be honest, I was thinking about immeadiatly after losing the three, reaching into my pocket and bringing out an envelope and asking someone to look after it, and the final card being revealed inside for the climax!

dimabbq, I am only familiar with the card to pocket, the other 2 are unknown to me, care to expand and give me sources to study?

Thanks for the input guys!

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Postby bronz » Jul 11th, '08, 18:02

Funnily enough I've been trying to come up with a decent multiple selection routine for a while. I played with various plots, such as each card being selected in progressively more impossible ways (ie. one selected as normal, one peeked and one thought of) or each revelation being more impossible than the last. The best routine was one of the latter where the cards were all selected (I tried having them signed but couldn't find a way to get round the 'dead time' of each card being removed signed and returned) the the first rose to the top of the pack, the second then appeared folded in my mouth and finally the whole deck vanished leaving only the last selection. It went down quite well but I never really performed it enough to develop it properly, laziness I suppose.

I also had a decent effect where three cards were selected and returned then the top card was shown to be indifferent. This was handed to one of the specs who inserted it freely into the deck and left it out jogged a bit. When the deck was spread it turned out the spec had pushed it in between the other two spec's cards, and in fact when it was turned over it too had become the last selection. Again I never really performed it much and just forgot about it, though reading back the effect sounds fairly good.

None of the above routines required any complex mechanics and anyone here who's seen me will vouch that I'm no card technician. However I found it useful to use the old trick of forgetting about the methods you know and thinking about what would be an impressive effect. From there build up the method, you'll come across little handling niggles but it's a fun process.

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Postby IAIN » Jul 11th, '08, 18:36

have an envelope left out at the start, sealed...after your effect, open it and tip out the same cards...

if you're forcing the cards they choose in the first place, you could brainwave/id it?

have a little clip of you fanning three cards on your mobile?

or maybe something with wiping the signature(s) on and off with an erdnase...

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Postby cymru1991 » Jul 11th, '08, 20:38

1. Cut to it (ie. using a back***p)
2.face up in the deck
3. cut to an indifferent card, show.. Top change, then show as the selected card.

Then perhaps return all three cards to the deck whilst pattering, M****ple shift, then a deck vanish leaving only the three selections left.

Hope this helps

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Postby Lenoir » Jul 11th, '08, 20:48

1. Cut to it (ie. using a back***p)


I can straight dead cut to it thanks :wink:


Cheers for the suggestions everyone, I especially like "IAIN"'s predicted cards in the envelope, going to quickly think a triple force now!

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Postby queen of clubs » Jul 11th, '08, 21:14

I have a multiple selection routine but I only have two selections. I reveal the first one by placing an indifferent card outjogged, flicking it, and it turns to the first selection. Then I table it using a gambler's switch and when I hot-shot cut the second selection out of the deck it turns out to be the first selection AGAIN. I look confused and say "If this is the first card, then what have you got?" etc, etc. You know the rest :p

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Postby The Magic Herring » Jul 11th, '08, 21:26

I' d end with a colour changing deck followed by a vanishing deck, 2 classics in one effect.

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Postby dimabbq » Jul 11th, '08, 21:47

Wild Card wrote:
You have expert card technique?

The section on revelations is good (just skimmed thru it)


Thanks Alkhemist, didn't even notice that was in there, liking the look of some of it!

selections go to three seperate pockets followed by a deck vanish apart from the three cards in question as a finale?


I would quite like three different revelations to be honest, I was thinking about immeadiatly after losing the three, reaching into my pocket and bringing out an envelope and asking someone to look after it, and the final card being revealed inside for the climax!

dimabbq, I am only familiar with the card to pocket, the other 2 are unknown to me, care to expand and give me sources to study?

Thanks for the input guys!


The Benzais is a way to make it look like you just cut to the card and it span out of the deck. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNUepjt6QmI - the first four revelations are Benzais cuts. There are a lot of sources: George McBride's DVD, John Bannon's Smoke & Mirror's book, The Best of Benzais and Paul Gordon's Nocturnal Creations.

Long distance spinner: Greg Wilson's Pyrotechnic Pasteboards, Penguin Magic have a download and Rich Ferguson has some DVDs that teach it.

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Postby Bigtone53 » Jul 11th, '08, 21:53

You can see Ricky Jay doing a fine range of reveals here. Take your pick :)

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