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Just remember use spray in vented area and don't breath deep. The headache after is just not worth it.

If you are using the liquid (not the spray) my only advice is to be practice on a deck you really don't care about. Use too much and the ink will run. Same is true of the spray but you don't have to wipe the spray on so there is less of a chance of it happening.

How about you learn a Memorized deck? I do an ID routine without the ID and hand the deck out for inspection afterwards, now that's strong! It takes time and effort but it beats trying to make them and you can use any cards!

Mexicub wrote:How about you learn a Memorized deck? I do an ID routine without the ID and hand the deck out for inspection afterwards, now that's strong! It takes time and effort but it beats trying to make them and you can use any cards!

Someone feel free to kick me in the shins if I'm wrong - but the effect of an ID is not that you know where the card is, it's that the selected card is upside down in the rest of the pack.

I fail to see how a memorized deck could achieve this effect.

Mage Tyler wrote:

Mexicub wrote:How about you learn a Memorized deck? I do an ID routine without the ID and hand the deck out for inspection afterwards, now that's strong! It takes time and effort but it beats trying to make them and you can use any cards!

Someone feel free to kick me in the shins if I'm wrong - but the effect of an ID is not that you know where the card is, it's that the selected card is upside down in the rest of the pack.

I fail to see how a memorized deck could achieve this effect.

nope, u're right. A memorized deck doesn't get the same reaction as a turned over card. It's soo visual

What I think Mexicub is saying is that he has a handling where, by knowing where every card is, he can use a straight pack of cards to achieve the same effect as a regular ID.

Yes I said a variation on the ID using regular cards. I never said the effect is telling someone where a card is, that would NOT be a variation of the ID. The effect I use reveals an upside down card in the deck just like the original. What's more is that you can do the original effect or I sometimes do the trick a little different, I sometimes take the deck out and while they still have the "card" they selected in their hands I show all cards to be facing the same way and right after they push the "card" into the deck I spread and instantly one card is now upside down. I get great reactions using the second method because one second they see the deck as normal and the next they push their card in and BAM! they see it upside down. This is great because it seems as if the "card" they are holding is actually real.

Mexicub wrote:Yes I said a variation on the ID using regular cards. I never said the effect is telling someone where a card is, that would NOT be a variation of the ID. The effect I use reveals an upside down card in the deck just like the original. What's more is that you can do the original effect or I sometimes do the trick a little different, I sometimes take the deck out and while they still have the "card" they selected in their hands I show all cards to be facing the same way and right after they push the "card" into the deck I spread and instantly one card is now upside down. I get great reactions using the second method because one second they see the deck as normal and the next they push their card in and BAM! they see it upside down. This is great because it seems as if the "card" they are holding is actually real.

What is that, then? Some sort of cull / Lee Asher turnover / single card half-pass move? I'm interested.

Well I would explain the method but I don't know if that means exploiting a trick and I don't think that is allowed in these forums. But It would involve a bit more work than just opening a deck and showing one faced down card. And I'm only suggesting this due to the fact that you said it is so difficult to obtain a Tally-Ho ID you can perform a variation of the ID with any deck of cards using a memorized deck. I have been using a memorized deck for so long I'm used to preforming tricks with it so I actually made my own handling of the ID using the memorized deck, well if my idea is not original I don't know anywhere to find it. But if you get Micheal Close Workers 5 you will find the ID effect with a memorized deck.

Farlsborough wrote:Tomo, have you had any experience of using the bottled fluid rather than the spray?...

I haven't tried it in this context, but I would consider using an airbrush... you can get reasonably cheap ones e.g. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Air-Brush-with- ... 64&sr=1-14 (I'm NOT recommending this one, just giving it as an example).

or heading towards your local art / craft store and asking them? They used to sell gizmos like the old perfume bottle sprays you see in old movies very cheaply, but they might not be available since all the manufacturers went pro-CFC.

I would rather have it on a bicycle back.

My opinion may, however, be bias as I live in Ohio, where bicycle cards are made. I still think they're are the ones everyone recognizes as the normal cards. Helps if your using a trick deck obviously. Maybe that's just because I'm in the United States. I don't know if they're as popular in Britain.

I sort of went off track, but no, i don't know any tally ho ID makers. I say make it yourself.

I must chime in on the DIY...I don't have two left hands, nor am I all thumgs....I am worse than that. I do however have no problem whatsoever making my own ID's. I was hesitant at first, but after the first one I realized I was worried over nothing at all. I make new ones all the time....jump in and try it and stop worrying...seriously!