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Sealed Fates - by Queen of Clubs

Postby queen of clubs » Aug 8th, '08, 16:14



From out of the brilliant dual brains of Queen of Clubs and Iain Dunford (well, he helped a bit...) comes my new effect, Sealed Fates.

For those who might be interested here is the basic description:

Sealed Fates

A deck of cards and a sealed envelope are placed on the table. This is not a random act of table-cluttery; you're about to do a trick.

You ask the spectator to keep posession of the envelope as you give the deck a casual shuffle.

The spectator picks a number. You explain that it can be any number between one and fifty-two; it doesn't really matter because fate has already decided the outcome. You slowly deal cards from the bottom of the deck, explaining that they all need to be kept face down for now, so we're not going to try and peek at any of them. When you arrive at the spectator's chosen number you deal the card face down infront of them, gathering the rest back up.

Reminding them that this about fate, you widely spread through the face down deck in your hands and tell them that you want them to take their face down card and slip it into the deck at any point as you spread through, but not to push it in all the way - just to leave it outjogged half its length like a place marker - and in that way a second card will be randomly selected.

Once they've stuck their card into the deck you square up and table it with their outjogged card somewhere in the middle. All of this is fair and random? Yes? Yes.

You ribbon spread the deck on the table and openly and fairly seperate their outjogged first selection and the card directly below it (which will become selection two) and remind them of the process that has just occured: they freely selected a number; we dealt to the corresponding card; that card was used by them to freely select a second card; both cards have remained face down and are a mystery.

You spread the rest of the deck face up on the table to show it is a genuine deck of playing cards while their two selections remain face down.

The spectator is then invited to open the sealed envelope. Inside is a folded slip of paper on which you've written 'You will choose the Two of Hearts and the Jack of Diamonds'.

By now it's probably time to turn over the Two of Hearts and the Jack of Diamonds, which you'll find located face down infront of your spectator.


This is a work-in-progress, but any and all comments at this early stage are extremely welcome.

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Postby AnonymousZC » Aug 8th, '08, 16:32

It sounds like a good trick.
I guess you could even use two spectators (first to pick the number, second to place the card in the deck to select the second) which might highten the experience.
Will we be seeing a preview video at any point? Would love to see it in action.

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Postby Lawrence » Aug 8th, '08, 16:41

Is this something you're going to be selling to us? I'm always curious to see how well things like this sell; my nine of clubs trick never got off the ground :cry:

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Aug 8th, '08, 16:53

Sounds really nice, Kate. Best of luck with it :D

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Postby Briareos » Aug 8th, '08, 17:39

Personally, I don't like trick which could practically involve dealing the whole deck. I always sigh when some kid says "Oh, I can do a trick too." In 90% of the cases I'm going to see the "Twenty One Card Trick". Not that it isn't a good self-working trick. With the right presentation it can be great but dealing, picking the piles up and dealing again and again just takes soo long.
Maybe you could use a different method to get the first card sellected because I really don't want to see an effect where the magician has to deal down 51 cards only because the spectator wants to be funny. Other than that your idea sounds good to me.

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Postby Palfince » Aug 8th, '08, 19:14

Briareos wrote:Personally, I don't like trick which could practically involve dealing the whole deck. I always sigh when some kid says "Oh, I can do a trick too." In 90% of the cases I'm going to see the "Twenty One Card Trick". Not that it isn't a good self-working trick. With the right presentation it can be great but dealing, picking the piles up and dealing again and again just takes soo long.
Maybe you could use a different method to get the first card sellected because I really don't want to see an effect where the magician has to deal down 51 cards only because the spectator wants to be funny. Other than that your idea sounds good to me.


It doesn't really take that long to deal 52 cards, if you do it quickly it will only take you about 30 seconds. Also if a spectator tries to be funny and says 51 you can just take the second card from the bottom, no need to deal any cards.

I think the trick sounds really good to be honest.

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Postby queen of clubs » Aug 8th, '08, 22:54

Lawrence wrote:Is this something you're going to be selling to us? I'm always curious to see how well things like this sell; my nine of clubs trick never got off the ground :cry:


What is your nine of clubs trick? PM me, I've not heard of it :)

I'm not sure I'll be selling it. Probably I'll just write up an explanation to give away to regular TM members who want it.

Briareos wrote:Personally, I don't like trick which could practically involve dealing the whole deck [...] I really don't want to see an effect where the magician has to deal down 51 cards only because the spectator wants to be funny. Other than that your idea sounds good to me.


You've got a point there. Although if a spec just wants to be annoying you could just say "Do you really want to sit there while I deal off 49 cards? Pick a different number." Or alternatively you could just make sure you've judged your audience well and only introduce this effect for someone who has shown a positive interest earlier in the performance.

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Postby FRK » Aug 8th, '08, 23:01

queen of clubs wrote:
You've got a point there. Although if a spec just wants to be annoying you could just say "Do you really want to sit there while I deal off 49 cards? Pick a different number." Or alternatively you could just make sure you've judged your audience well and only introduce this effect for someone who has shown a positive interest earlier in the performance.


This would cover any 50 card call IMHO

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Postby themagicwand » Aug 8th, '08, 23:38

Really like it Kate. I do have an idea purely from a presentational point of view. How about the sealed prediction takes the form of a fortune cookie type thing? You know what I mean, the pieces of paper inside fortune cookies that say things like "The eastern wind blows cold through your soul. Tomorrow a new sun dawns."

So instead of just saying "You will pick the Jack of Diamonds and the 2 of Hearts", your prediction could say "Your friendly manner belies a true sense of ambition. Fate points you towards the Jack of Diamonds. True love is yours now or in the near future. The 2 of Hearts is the card of great lovers."

Then you can use this routine as a way into doing some kind of fortune telling/reading thingy which, as you know, I'm all in favour of.

Hey, you could even then say: "Anyone ever had their palm read?" :wink: :wink:

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Postby queen of clubs » Aug 9th, '08, 00:13

That's an interesting approach, Paul. However, I think it might be out of place with the rest of my reportoire, since I'm aiming more to be a female cross between the styles of Bill Malone and mid-career Derren Brown.

The fortune cookie thing might also be gilding the lily, because isn't it enough that I predicted two cards that they chose in extremely random and fair ways? Having it be so inevitable that I also incorporate some kind of fortune reading into it seems arrogant! At least it would be coming from an uncouth laddette such as myself... :p

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Postby themagicwand » Aug 9th, '08, 00:19

No worries Kate! Your routine did inspire the fortune cookie thing in a stream of consciousness type thing, and I'm now busily concocting (is that even a word?) a little routine with fortune cookies. Magic's weird like that innit, one thing leads to another like eels gliding towrds their ancestral mating ground.

Okay. I think that's quite enough fortune cookie speak for now. Time for me to say night night I think. Night night.

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Postby Ian The Magic-Ian » Aug 9th, '08, 00:25

I think that I may do a prediction inside of a sealed fortune cookie. That would be really cool. Thanks for the idea. Oh I like the sound of your routine Kate It sounds like a really cool idea.

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Postby Farlsborough » Aug 9th, '08, 02:06

queen of clubs wrote: I'm aiming more to be a female cross between the styles of Bill Malone and mid-career Derren Brown.


I'm not sure I can quite imagine what sort of Frankenstein's Magician that would be! :lol:

At this very early stage I like it Kate, although the method kinda makes 90% of the difference for these sorts of tricks. If it's impromptu, repeatable etc. than it's brilliant - if it requires a stacked, memorised AND gaffed deck, can only be performed once for any given audience member and necessitates the use of a deck that cannot be used for anything else, than it pretty much sucks! :P Granted it would be the same effect for the audience but for the performing magician, "workability" will make a big difference to whether they like it or not!

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Postby Ian The Magic-Ian » Aug 9th, '08, 02:59

If it's impomptu I will buy it. ♥♦♣♠

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Postby B0bbY_CaT » Aug 9th, '08, 03:09

Kate,

could you do it twice? First time around you are predicting one card only, the envelope is in your pocket. Written on the envelope is "1st prediction".

Then allow the "know it alls" a moment to gloat (you could even add "it's not like I've got 52 pockets" or "I used to do this trick with 52 pockets but I could never remember which card I hid in which pocket") before putting a second envelope on the table, this time in advance. This envelope has "2nd Prediction" written on it. This envelope can be held by another spec, or left to sit on the table while you do the trick you describe above.

Then as a finale, perhaps you could switch decks and do an I.D. routine (easy to do given you can do it under the guise of discretely selecting one card to turn over before putting the deck on the table). This becomes your final revelation.

You could overcome the problem of someone selecting 50 as their number by saying, "OK, I dont want this to be too easy so give me a number more than 10, but I dont want it to be too boring so make it less than 30" for the first phase, in all likelyhood you won't need to repeat the same instruction for the second phase so there will be "apparently" no restrictions which is the way people will remember it (hopefully) later.

Good luck and as said previously would love to see a vid.

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