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Postby magicmindben » Aug 23rd, '08, 01:50



He uses a DL for every other trick. I don't lie his style of magic, if it can be called style.

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Postby Lenoir » Aug 23rd, '08, 09:26

He had several TV Specials and the whole world watched him, he definately had style, whether it's to your liking or not.

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Re: blaine.

Postby IAIN » Aug 23rd, '08, 10:39

magicmindben wrote:He uses a DL for every other trick. I don't lie his style of magic, if it can be called style.


thanks for sharing...you put forward such an indepth provocative dissertation im sure no one else can argue against it... :wink:

see what i did there? no dl's needed..

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Re: blaine.

Postby Lawrence » Aug 23rd, '08, 12:32

magicmindben wrote:He uses a DL for every other trick.

And you don't!?!? :lol:
I know I certainly used to, these days my card tricks barely involves any sleights at all, life is easier now.

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Re: blaine.

Postby bmat » Aug 23rd, '08, 17:56

magicmindben wrote:He uses a DL for every other trick. I don't lie his style of magic, if it can be called style.


I wonder if David Blaine feels the same way about you. In fact I wonder if he even knows who you are.

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Postby queen of clubs » Aug 23rd, '08, 18:37

What's wrong with the DL anyway?

I don't like Blaine too much, but I wouldn't cite his use of a DL as a reason to put him down - it's an invisible sleight anyway, so he could use it in every single card trick and the audience wouldn't know.

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Postby MagicBell » Aug 23rd, '08, 22:00

Thank God, I think i finally figured out what DL stands for.

Is there any harm in using it if it works?

Im sure many of the very best in many arts will tell you that they choose a couple of techniques and perfect them to death, whereas its often the overexcited amateurs who like to flash off every bit of skill they know, regardless of how well they can do it.

Just like flourishes. Do you use them tactfully or throw them about the place to make yourself look good?



The only difference is with magic, no-one sees the technique, but you can still optimise your performance by utilising those which you have perfected to the point that it's as easy as breathing.

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Postby goodismyname » Aug 24th, '08, 01:34

Funny, I love Blaine for his simplicity yet for the same reason you hate him.

Why should it matter if he uses a lot of double lifts? I haven't seen any of your magic but, juding by your "text maturity" Blaine could out-perform you.

Also it shouldn't matter if he used all self-working tricks; he entertains. A magician's job is to entertain people not to do some complex sleights that the spectator doesn't even know exists.

You could be the best sleight of hand artist in the world but still have people falling asleep in your show because you suck at presentation! And yet you could be the worst sleight of hand artist in the world but still making millions because, your presentation is perfect!

If he wasn't good then he wouldn't have his own television specials.

I don't think you exactly have the "right" to claim that you are better than him.

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Postby goodismyname » Aug 24th, '08, 01:35

Sorry if I'm a little harsh.

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Postby MagicBell » Aug 24th, '08, 11:56

Someone should edit the last post. A certain phrase needs to be removed for exposure...

You made some good points. Doesn't matter how fancy your sleights are because no-one sees it and no-one knows. So you use what works.
Perhaps you went a bit too far though. I'm sure the worst sleight of hand couldn't be covered up by presentation, but i get what you was getting at.

But the poster didn't claim to be better than Blaine. He just said he doesn't like him, which is fair enough, cause i think a majority of people are now quite annoyed with David Blaine's presentation style. It does get irritating. But to doubt him because of his methods, not so good.

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Postby goodismyname » Aug 24th, '08, 15:55

Sorry was a little ticked off last night. As for the worst sleight of hand artists making millions that was an exageration. But, they are out there ever hear of palm readers?

It's alright if you don't like his presentation (a lot of people don't) but, some people do.

As for the poster claiming that he is better than Blaine, my bad :oops: .

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Postby magikmax » Aug 25th, '08, 16:28

David Blaine has a lot to answer for in my opinion. It's a safe bet most of the Ellusionist and You Tube brigade for starters.

However, I don't think anyone can deny his contribution to magic, and that he's been instrumental in its resurgence in popularity of magic, and he helped make it 'cool' once more.

It would be nice to see him get back to doing more magic rather than endurance stunts, but if that's what he wants to do, then its up to him. I don't like Blaine's style, and never have, there's simply nothing to it, and I think it's quite lazy. It worked though, didn't it?

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Postby themagicwand » Aug 31st, '08, 23:18

goodismyname wrote:Sorry was a little ticked off last night. As for the worst sleight of hand artists making millions that was an exageration. But, they are out there ever hear of palm readers?.

A palm reader making millions? I wish.

Funny though. It was Blaine that turned me onto "magic". After years studying tarot and the occult, Blaine made me realise that magic could also touch people on an emotional level. Something Paul Daniels never did. At least not in a good way.

"Street Magic" was (is) a bloody brilliant series. I've said it before - if it wasn't for the success of "Street Magic" on C4 (in the UK) they would never have commisioned the first DB series (Trick of the Mind?).

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