Riffle Culling

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Riffle Culling

Postby Lenoir » Sep 7th, '08, 14:48



I was going to buy Past Midnight today but in the end conquered by CUPS for the pricetag was too much. I have heard great things about the set but I'll save it for a later date!

Anywhom, he has a name a card triumph style routine which Sadowitz has accused him of stealing, or at least not properly crediting! I am a big fan of Duffie and Sadowitz and so am close to buying "Card on the Table" which includes Jerry's orignal version of the routine!

I looked up the chapter listings online and it said next to the effect "Riffle Culling" Upon searching for this, it seems like quite a hard and sought after move, does anyone have any thoughts, isit ridiculously hard? Is it well taught in the Sadowitz book?

If this counts as some kind of exposure, tell me and I shall edit the relevant bit out, but some advice on the riffle cull would be much appreicated.

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Postby Lenoir » Sep 7th, '08, 17:00

Ahhhh :( We have no riffle cullers on here...or maybe they all just don't like me :P

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Postby queen of clubs » Sep 7th, '08, 17:02

I don't know what riffle culling is, but it's got me very excited. It sounds marvellous! :D

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Postby Ian The Magic-Ian » Sep 7th, '08, 17:04

Well if Queen of Clubs has never heard of it your out of luck on this forum. :lol: :lol:

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Postby Lenoir » Sep 7th, '08, 17:13

queen of clubs wrote:I don't know what riffle culling is, but it's got me very excited. It sounds marvellous! :D


Indeed, do a quick google search and there are a few people on forums banging on about, but nothing amazingly helpful! Sadowitz's work is just so flippin addictive.

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Postby babyshanks » Sep 7th, '08, 18:40

I know there is a way of culling whilst doing a face down table riffle shuffle, I think it's called the Steven's Cull. Bastardly hard though :lol: I'm sure I knew where to learn it but I can't remember it for the life of me, I'll search around see if I can find it again.

And there is a way of culling whilst doing an in the hands riffle. I learnt it from Jeff Wessmiller's DVD Weapons of the Card Shark 2. It's under the Blind Culling section.

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Postby Lenoir » Sep 7th, '08, 18:43

Cheers, I mainly concerned about the move needed to do the Name A Card Triumph.

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Postby Mikehosker » Sep 8th, '08, 01:01

You could easily do name a card triumph without a riffle cull, but this would not be impromtu.

If you are familiar with the perfect faro shuffle and the principle that 8 out faros returns order, you could go from a semingly random deck (say 4 or 5 out faros into the 8 faro sequence), have a card named and then continue to shuffle (the remaining number of out faros required to get back to order), cut to bring the named card to top and proceed with triumph as per your usual method.

You'd then get the kicker ending that the deck is in numerical order.

You could use a deck switch to ensure it feels impromptu.

Just a thought to tide you over til you find and learn the riffle cull.

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Postby Marvo Marky » Sep 8th, '08, 13:16

Wild Card,

Sadowtiz does indeed include the entire Name a Card Triumph.
His method is quite difficult though and will require a fair amount of practice. It has several parts and each one really needs to be learned independently.

He does use a type of riffle culling, but it is different to any that I've seen before because of the face-up/face-down packets. It's a simple cull but it's combined with a Zarrow shuffle. I don't want to expose but it really is a very simple cull. But you will need to be very familiar with the Zarrow however.

I did try learning this one but I'm afarid to say that I gave up in the end. In my opinion there is just too much extra work. I saw Sadowitz perform this in Edinburgh and it seemed just a little bit 'stoppy starty' for my liking - there was definitely a slowing during the cull. The audience liked it, mind you.

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Postby Lenoir » Sep 8th, '08, 13:27

That was the perfect anwser Mark, thank you very much! I am a very big fan of Sadowitz's card work but similar to Lennart Green, somethings I think only HE could pull off.

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