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Just to let you know that this has just come out and ive got it. Its a must get and Im very excited about it. http://www.emagictricks.co.uk/product_i ... ts_id=4862

just quite why the colour of , what must be one of the most powerfull effects in card magic matters, is beyond me..........

Particualy since the things are invisible

Surely the most powerful part of ID is that it uses what appears to be a normal everyday deck? (I know, don't call me Shirley). Black Tigers are anything but ordinary and positively scream 'unusual'. I think I've missed the point somewhere.

Even if the punters think that the cards are normal, they are bound to say " there unusual cards, can I see?"

Purely a personal opinion but I reckon Black Tigers were intended for the more bizarre and darker 'Black Magic' type of tricks and ought to be reserved for them. Halloween parties with Vampire themed tricks especially! If you're going to do an ID routine then use a blue or red back deck. If push comes to shove and you really must do ID with Black Tigers then it's not hard to make your own from the standard Black Tigers plus a little 'aardvark' preparation.

Personally I think you have to be mad to use Black tigers for ID, the last thing you want to do is draw any extra attention to the ID pack and black tigers are all about getting attention. Also having seen the weird faces of the black tigers you can bet the spec will want to see the backs

Nope it's definitely a really bad idea.

Only possible time it may be of some use is if your using a black tiger pack and swap the ID deck in, for a big finnish.

Sounds like a bad idea to me too.

However, imagine a Brainwave Deck, where the named card is the only Black Tiger in an otherwise normal deck...

EDIT: Obviously, it wouldn't be the usual form of Brainwave. In operation it would be more like the ID. Sorry, I didn't make myself clear on the first attempt.

And it would involve something else too, of course.

swap the ID deck in, for a big finnish

Which proves there's an exception to every rule - nice idea!

Part-Timer wrote:Sounds like a bad idea to me too.

However, imagine a Brainwave Deck, where the named card is the only Black Tiger in an otherwise normal deck...

EDIT: Obviously, it wouldn't be the usual form of Brainwave. In operation it would be more like the ID. Sorry, I didn't make myself clear on the first attempt.

And it would involve something else too, of course.

In actual fact, it will be exactly the same as a Brainwave deck, which the turned card has an odd back.( the creation of Dai Vernon).
An ID, has the cards facing outwards, with all backs the same.
This particular deck should be called a Berg Deck, since it was invented by American magician, Joe Berg.
D.

daleshrimpton wrote:In actual fact, it will be exactly the same as a Brainwave deck, which the turned card has an odd back.( the creation of Dai Vernon).
An ID, has the cards facing outwards, with all backs the same.
This particular deck should be called a Berg Deck, since it was invented by American magician, Joe Berg.
D.

No, it wouldn't.

I thought as you did, hence my original post, then realised it wouldn't quite work as a Brainwave does.

In that, the cards are seen face down and spread to reveal only one, which is face up. It's then turned over to reveal a different coloured back. If you used Black Tiger cards, the shock revelation would be that the thought of card is in negative. Turning the card over to show the back is less effective than seeing its face.

If performed like an ID, the card is named, the deck run through with the cards face up, and looking normal. One card is then revealed as a Black Tiger and it's the one named.

You will, of course need a couple of such decks...

Personally I think that the Black Tiger ID and Rising Card decks are just ellusionist cashing in on a craze. Like many people have already said, the Black Tigers seem dodgy and in my opinion we as magicians should be capitalizing on the fact that they arn't dodgy in any way shape or form except for their colouring. Its all about perception! However, Happy Toad's idea of swapping in the ID at the end of a routine would be very effective if handled correctly, but think that's the only application I can see for a gaffed Black Tiger deck.

dam I see your point now, youre right they bring too much attention to the cards. I can't see myself using these much now. Thanks for that before I went out there and messed things up!

That's what is so great about boards like this Andy, it's really helpful to get the input of a variety of other magical minds

Hi, not sure if anyone knows about this product, but you can now get an ID, like looking normal, Bicycle deck of cards, but the thought of card turns out to be a Black Tiger Card. Its not like Ellusionists Black Tiger ID where all the cards are Black Tigers, this deck just looks normal until you riffle through the cards until the Black Tiger card appears and is the thought of card. I bought this trick and I think it really adds more shock value then the Black Tiger deck or the regular ID, really cool and great reactions.

I bought it at www.thisismagic.com as I think they are the exclusive owners of this item.

Does anyone else own this deck???