How to reverse the top or bottom card?

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How to reverse the top or bottom card?

Postby Johnny Bravo » Oct 15th, '04, 16:38



Is there a sleight method for doing this, ie secretly turning a face down top card so that it remains on the top but is face up.
The method quoted on the Oz Born To Perform DVD is to gain eye contact & do the move then with your hands well down.

This makes me somewhat nervous, while you may gain eye contact with the person your performing the trick on others around won't nessasarily get the eye contact & the move is fairly open, (well it is the way I do it :oops: )

I've got a copy of the royal road but can't find any referance to it?

Any web pages pointing out the moves? :?:

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Postby the_mog » Oct 15th, '04, 16:43

if you turn the card face up wont the audience notice the card has changed?? unless your talking about turning over the whole deck at the same time?

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Postby Johnny Bravo » Oct 15th, '04, 16:46

Nah it's just turned up briefly whilst in your hands which are generally by your side, very soon another card is placed on top covering it?

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Postby Mandrake » Oct 15th, '04, 16:56

If Oz Pearlman says it's done by misdirecting eye contact and sneaky 'down by your side' moves, you can bet that's the easiest way of doing it. If appropriate, and if you can work it in with the trick, constantly riffling and fiddling with the cards gets the specs used to such movement so they eventually just don't see anything unusual when you work in a swift card change. Some suitably distracting arm and hand movements will mean they can't focus so well on the cards as they're too busy trying to follow such other movements at the same time.

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Postby the_mog » Oct 15th, '04, 17:00

ok since i dont know the routine your on about i can offer a solution which may or may not be of use...

i assume the specs card is the one which is going to be turned face up? well one way to do it is to do a double turnover to show an "indifferent card" and rather than turning both face down again, only turn the indifferent card and slide it face down into the middle of the deck which leaves the specs card face up on top of the deck


hope this helps??

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Postby Johnny Bravo » Oct 15th, '04, 17:01

Mog. the cards just turned up briefly whilst in your hands which are generally by your side, very soon another card is placed on top covering it?

With ref to Oz's handling which is of course superb, I'm slowly getting the DL but the way he does it he doesn't even use fingers to straighten & align the cards (the big bogey bum :mrgreen: )

Andy while he's got all th epatter & confidence that's great but I feel amazingly insecure turning over this top card in front of all.

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Postby daleshrimpton » Oct 15th, '04, 17:19

Mandrake wrote:If Oz Pearlman says it's done by misdirecting eye contact and sneaky 'down by your side' moves, you can bet that's the easiest way of doing it. If appropriate, and if you can work it in with the trick, constantly riffling and fiddling with the cards gets the specs used to such movement so they eventually just don't see anything unusual when you work in a swift card change. Some suitably distracting arm and hand movements will mean they can't focus so well on the cards as they're too busy trying to follow such other movements at the same time.


I use the leg method at the table side myself . :D



Sometimes i just turn the damn thing over.
This has been very well published, and i know it is in Royal road. Can i assume that you dont have books?
If not, you should at least get royal rd.

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Postby Johnny Bravo » Oct 15th, '04, 17:27

Thanks Daleshrimpton.

Yes I do have books & as I mentioned at the top of this post I can't find the top card reversed in the rrtcm. Obviously I'm not looking hard enough.

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Postby Michael Jay » Oct 15th, '04, 17:51

If you want the card in the middle, go the Braue reversal. On the bottom (and you can then control it to the top), just simply put it there using misdirection and your fingers to slip the card around the deck to the bottom, hence reversing it. With a slip shuffle, then a control, it'll be second from the top.

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Postby Johnny Bravo » Oct 15th, '04, 17:56

The trick is the two card monte as seen on Ozs Born To Perform DVD.

Just did this on my brother & he fell for it hook line & sinker, but I would like to now if there is another method of turning the top card & keeping it on the top unoticed?

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Postby dat8962 » Oct 15th, '04, 18:45

The Oz method taught on the DVD is one of the best 'turn' methods around and what makes this DVD superb is that throughout all of the routines he gives different methods of misdirection and explains why the timing is so important. It's worthwhile mastering this, rather than looking for others. As you practice you will usually find your own variations anyway.

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Postby Gochos The Greek » Oct 16th, '04, 05:36

I use the same method as Daleshrimpton. It is one of the things which i believe is very underestimated as people will pass it on as soemthing that whont work. If you whant a page reference from the royal Roal in card magic let us know. Try it and see how eassy it is.

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Postby Johnny Bravo » Oct 16th, '04, 13:50

Hi Gochos

Yes can you give me a page referance on rrtcm, also any further info on doing the move on your leg?
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Postby GoldFish » Oct 16th, '04, 19:37

Johnny Bravo wrote: also any further info on doing the move on your leg?
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Can you push over the top card with your thumb?

Now start thinking.

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Postby Johnny Bravo » Oct 17th, '04, 01:20

What you mean manouver th ecard with your thumb & turn it over using ones thigh as leverage?
That's awfully brave isn't it?

I'm far to new & cowardly too do that move, at least the Oz way you have the slight cover of using two hands!!!

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