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I was so excited about this, it came in the post today.
I am quite disappointed with it, it has been wrongly advertised like so many magic items.

It says in the advert that it is really tiny, well its not really, infact if you took the contents of a D'light out and taped it a bit, that would be smaller.

It says it is really bright, yes its bright, but anyone could make this.

You can buy a little flash light like it for a small amount of money, I think it would be the same, if you wanted a different coloured bulb, you just buy a small LED.

In the advertisment it mentions it being able to stay on, NO, it cannot stay on, you have to hold the button down, that means that moving it from have to hand is hard.

I am setting out to make a much better one, I want one that you could float if you wanted to, or you could grab it out of the air and make it appear and dissapear.

I will tell you of my findings.

The good things about it are, that it is bright.
It could be really good, if it didn't look like a cheaply made mini LED flash light covered in finger plasters and if only it was actually really small as it said it would be.

Also, if someone else has this item, can they tell me what they think of it and if I am missing something.

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Thank you all

http://www.amazon.co.uk/LED-Keyring-Bri ... 849&sr=8-5

this is pretty much what I got, just with the addition of it being covered in sticking plaster.

Actually it can be left on. There's another switch that enables you to do this, should be somewhere in the instructions. When combined with D'Lites you can create a truly mystifying routine with a little thought as the respective qualities of both enable you to cancel out any preconceptions of how the effect may work in the minds of the audience.

Illusionart says, in part: ". . . anyone could make this. . ."

Yes, but only Jay Scott Berry DID make it

I think that most things in magic are actually very simple, it's the idea that you're paying for rather than just the prop. If buying it has given you an idea of how to put something together that's going to suit you better, than I'd say it was money well spent.

Dirty Davey wrote:I think that most things in magic are actually very simple, it's the idea that you're paying for rather than just the prop. .

The prop though, should still be put together decently and not suck or else a lot of the times the idea can be useless.

Speaking from experience of course with a poorly constructed appearing cane which had a( supposed to be a) crystal on top. I was practicing a show (thank goodness not a live performance or I would've hurt someone) The crystal flew off and hit someones house.

This could've ruined the effect and someones night...

I know there's the thing about methods being so simple that you can't believe they work.

But when I saw him perform a routine with them, I thought to myself: "You could do exactly the same thing with one of those little LED keyrings I got off of IWantOneOfThose.com".

When I saw his lecture, I realised that that was exactly what he was using - only he'd covered it in what appeared to be plasters.

Sometimes the method can be too simple.

I have not seen his lecture, so I had no idea that I was paying £15 for a little key ring light covered in sticking plaster strip.

That was the real problem, I would be fine if I knew that was what I was buying, but it was wrongly advertised.

I actually sent Scott an email and he got very annoyed at me, he did not want to answer my questions or worry's about the product.
I was just in a mood, I was very disappointed.

I am sorry everyone if my posts seem annoying or something, I am just upset with the magic industry at the moment.

After sending Scott another email(I did babble on, but I was not being horrible at that point) and he still could not tell me what I wanted to know,

I wanted to know why it was a little key ring torch and not what the advert said it would be.

Right at the end of all the he totally wrote me off, he was pretty horrible, I simply wanted answers, as far as I was concerned, I had been duped and I was not just going to walk away from it.

If you are interested in seeing the emails in full(like you would be, but just in case you want to give another perspective on them)
you can PM me.


I Will now be posting nice messages and useful knowledge instead of all this nonsense, still, interesting to hear your opinions.

Thank you all

I hope you all are having a great holiday and had a great Christmas.

Happy new year to all


Kim Flores


P.S.

I am totally not against the method in witch Jay uses to perform this effect, he just totally ripped me off and was so egotistical in his emails, I may have an ego, but we all do,
There was no reason for him to call me all the things he did, he did not swear, but he could have put me off magic, or made me want to prove him wrong, he did neither.

You have a bit of a point about Jay I think. I've only had very limited experience of him (saw a lecture and own the Light Fantastic fazer dvd) but from what I've seen he's very self confident and believes in his abilities and products to a large degree, often to the point of not wishing to discuss any possible drawbacks. Some would call that narrow minded arrogance.

Out of curiosity I showed Mrs Bronz some of the fazer dvd and she said "Ooh that's pretty." When I asked her how magical it was she said that it wasn't, it was little leds being thrown about in an aesthetically pleasing way, but it looked nice. A lot of the stuff that Jay does with the fazers is limited to certain performance conditions and in some cases is stupidly fiddly (try palming four of the the things in one hand and producing them in a convincing fashion) but if you think of the products as research material for your own routine then they're actually very handy. For example D'Lites are becoming fairly well known to the general public. Not so much that you can't use them but you have to be careful and aware that someone might call you on your performance. However with the use of fazers you can do a few traditional D'Litey moves then completely throw them off the scent by throwing the light from hand to hand or somesuch. A friend and I devised a little routine where one of us threw a light into a glass held by the other then plucked it back out through the base, nice little visual penetration. As with anything just adapt it to what you want to do.

Bronz, thank you for this.


I shall work with the fazer a little more, however over priced it is.

Actually it does work & is I think, brighter than D'Lite.

For anyone who has purchased it.
At first you may find the 'switch' a little stiff. Just remove a very small area of the flesh coloured plaster from around the switch and push it up. It then locks.

After that, it's all up to your imagination how you use it.

Allen Tipton

Allen, thank you for posting this.

I am so sorry for my mistake and annoyance.


Allen is one of the nicest magicians I have ever had the pleasure of speaking with.

All the best

Kim