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mark lewis wrote:Not true. Some readings are not legitimate at all. However some are. And some are a mixture of true and false.
It is a weird business. Some psychics start out crooked and end up being real and others start out real and end up crooked. Many of them meet in the middle.
mark lewis wrote:A good psychic can HELP the vulnerable, needy and desperate.
As for proof there is just as much proof of psychic ability than there is of God's existence. In fact it is perfectly obvious that not all religions can be correct since they all say different things.
As for payment I wasn't aware that priests and ministers work for no money. They all get paid just as a psychic does. Even the Pope isn't short of the price of a sandwich.
Another thing we have to learn is that payment is part of the therapy. If people pay nothing they will put a nothing value on it. As noted in "Tarotmania" by Jan Woudhuysen "All the best psychiatrists in American agree that charging a high fee has a strong therapeutic effect"
Of course it is unethical to overcharge but you musn't undercharge either.
Ethics you know.
mrgoat wrote:
I believe in Richard Dawkins.
Craig Browning wrote:Oh goodie, another cynical schmuck![]()
Craig Browning wrote:If you have never learned how to do Readings using the actual oracles like the Tarot, Palmistry, etc. then you do no know what you are talking about, nor do you have the justified right to slander it.
Craig Browning wrote:If you have not taken that knowledge and worked with it over a period of at least a year or more, doing more than a few hundred Readings a year, then again, you haven't a leg to stand on when it comes to boast-filled claims and negative attitudes. EVERYTHING you are basing your bias on, comes from the myth that magician can't believe in such and the evangelic attitudes being promoted by pop TV personalities and some old Pedophile that heads up a rather dangerous cult (a.k.a. Tax Shelter) which is more akin to a front for the American Atheist Society.
Craig Browning wrote:When evidence is produced to the contrary of this sects beliefs, they will demand "more" in way of proof while likewise poo-pooing the researchers that introduce said proof's as being quacks and fools. Even when said researcher is a Nobel Prize winner.
Craig Browning wrote:When evidence of data tampering is proven, when it comes to this sort of Cynical group's "testing" (who are manipulating data so it cannot possibly prove valid) then one must likewise consider that they are just as big a fraud and charlatan as those they seek to expose and generally pick on.
Craig Browning wrote:When it comes to the bogus Million, the wordage of the challenge leaves no room for anyone to possibly "win" outside the hype and PR one gains by association... Then again, the producers of said challenge have NEVER allowed those that pass the first level of said testing, to move forward... and that alone proves fraud on their part.
Craig Browning wrote:A "Legit" Reading is one done by a person who is not being consciously influenced by all the "explanations" and formulas we find in the world of stage magic; someone that has learned a system (or more) based on the original modes of use, application and presentation. Frequently the student that is studied and who develops a sound sense of experience, will couple this intellectual knowledge (how to use the system, the meaning of symbols, etc.) with natural Intuition.
Craig Browning wrote:To Summarize... if you haven't the experience or the audacity
Craig Browning wrote: to actually LEARN about a given field from either side of the issue at an experiential level, you have no right to be judgmental towards it, nor any sense of foundation upon which to stand when doing so. You are merely being a trained parrot that regurgitates the standard views offered by a biased few vs. the greater demonstration of actual WISDOM and honest fairness around things.
Craig Browning wrote:Oh! And too, not everyone that does Readings is out to screw the public.
mrgoat wrote:
Of course, that's why they all do it for free, like a charity thing really.
Not on here you don't. I wish it were otherwise but bitter experience shows such a feature will be, and certainly has been, misused so that's why we have rules and that's why this thread is now locked.mrgoat wrote:I have every right to say what I want about anything I want
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