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Like the title says, this thread is on the subject of Animal Testing. For my Biology class, I need to complete a survey of a certain # of people. I emailed twenty something people but...who knows when they'll respond so, why not ask here. If you're up to it, below is a brief survey that you can respond with, or, if you fell it's something you don't wish to publicly share your opinions on, you can PM me. If you don't mind filling it out it would really help me out so I can finish up the school year.

Thanks,
Ian


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Animal Testing Survey
Age:
Gender:
Occupation:
Education:

What is your opinion on animal testing?


Are you concerned in any way that inhumane testing is occurring on these animals; or is it irrelevant to you?


Is it an important factor in the choosing of shampoo, cosmetics, etc. that it has not been used as a test product on animals?


If you’re against it, what kind of alternatives would you suggest; if it doesn’t bother you that their testing shampoo, cosmetics, etc. on animals why not?

Ian The Magic-Ian wrote:
Are you concerned in any way that inhumane testing is occurring on these animals; or is it irrelevant to you?

And then in your Critical Thinking class you can look at the subjective nature of questions and how organisations with a political agenda phrase questions to get the answer that they want.

Then consider the legal meaning of "not tested on animals" and which product in the production cycle is being referred to. IAMAL, but I know enough about spin to know that these tepid phrases (like "organic food") contain a rainbow of meanings.

PM'd you

Aren't the second, third and fourth questions covered by the first?

if you join up to surveymonkey.com, you can create an online survey for free - up to a hundred responses and it collates the data for you into a handy chart....

the questions you're asking is quite sensitive data, the age/job thing, so i doubt you'd get many responses...

but i'll answer the others...

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What is your opinion on animal testing?
Ouch?! if the creature is bred purely for testing, and it'll save ickle babies lives, I'm all for it. Humans over animals...caveman 101 response


Are you concerned in any way that inhumane testing is occurring on these animals; or is it irrelevant to you?
i agree that some inhumane testing is done, just as there is humane testing too. what the percentages are, i do not know. i dont think about it on a daily basis - I'm too busy looking after my family and...well..me, me, me...


Is it an important factor in the choosing of shampoo, cosmetics, etc. that it has not been used as a test product on animals?
i can't remember the last time i checked a label for that...i but a lot of stuff from Boots and Lush...


If you’re against it, what kind of alternatives would you suggest; if it doesn’t bother you that their testing shampoo, cosmetics, etc. on animals why not?
i will defend a rabbits life to wear lipstick as much as i can. i am neither against, nor pro. we are modern primatives, beasts and occassionally human. I'd rather it be tested on animals, than suddenly see someone come up in a massive reaction to it and possibly die. If thats possible. Unless it was jim davidson. Lets test stuff out on him.

if we genetically grow skin cells etc to test it on, lets do that - as long as it doesnt hike the prices up too much. As i have expensive clothes to buy, made by children in sweatshops in hot countries after all.

Hi Ian. Hope this helps. Good luck with the biology class - a subject I really enjoyed. Tony.

Animal Testing Survey
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Occupation: Magician/writer
Education: BSc, HDip Applied Communications, Dip Hypnotherapy, Dip Clinical Massage

What is your opinion on animal testing?
I feel it is essential for some medicines. We need to test them before we use them on humans, and animal testing works. I am completely against it for trivial purposes (cosmetics or trivial science).


Are you concerned in any way that inhumane testing is occurring on these animals; or is it irrelevant to you?
I am very concerned that the testing carried out should be the minimum we can get away with, and should not cause unnecessary suffering to the ahimal.

Is it an important factor in the choosing of shampoo, cosmetics, etc. that it has not been used as a test product on animals?
For me, yes.

If you’re against it, what kind of alternatives would you suggest; if it doesn’t bother you that their testing shampoo, cosmetics, etc. on animals why not?
I believe we can test on tissue samples and other cultures rather than on animals. Sometimes there is no alternative to animal testing, but whenever there is we should use the alternative.

if anyone wants a sample from my tissues, please pm me...

queen of clubs wrote:Aren't the second, third and fourth questions covered by the first?

I ran out of ideas, but in essence, yes they are.

Here's mine, for whatever it's worth to you:

Age: 47
Gender: Female
Occupation: Freelance editor/proofreader
Education: BSc, first-class honours (biology)

What is your opinion on animal testing?
I am generally in favour of animal testing and experimentation, for both basic research and clinical trials. I do believe strongly in the necessity for humane treatment of all domestic animals, including lab animals.

Are you concerned in any way that inhumane testing is occurring on these animals; or is it irrelevant to you?
I do not believe that any testing currently done in the UK or other western countries is inhumane.

Is it an important factor in the choosing of shampoo, cosmetics, etc. that it has not been used as a test product on animals?
I would prefer a product that has been tested and proven safe before I used it.
Most commercial products nowadays are made of materials that were tested years or decades ago and certified as safe. Claims that a particular brand is "not tested on animals" are usually weasel words -- that brand hasn't been tested, but the component ingredients were at some point in the past.

If you’re against it, what kind of alternatives would you suggest; if it doesn’t bother you that their testing shampoo, cosmetics, etc. on animals why not?
I am in favour of using non-animal alternatives (cell cultures, etc.) as much as possible. This would not only end the debate on animal welfare, but would also be cheaper and theoretically more reliable.
But, at the present state of science and technology, alternatives are not yet available.
It comes down to pragmatism. Breeding animals for laboratory use is just as ethical as breeding them for meat, leather, etc.

oh can i also add, that if rabbits and rats dont pass at least 3 GCSE grade C or above, then they should be put down...

I'm Chinese. We are not animal lovers. I will eat anything that is not fast enough to get off the plate.

Next question, please.

Only kidding. I'll fill out your survey and PM you.

Ian The Magic-Ian wrote:Is it an important factor in the choosing of shampoo, cosmetics, etc. that it has not been used as a test product on animals?

Testing cosmetics on animals has been illegal in the UK for a very long time. Besides, who'd want to put lipstick on a bunny; they're already cure.

...they're already cute, and gah, you beat me to it! God bless you, Rich Hall.

What's more shocking - that animals are tested on in some countries, or that renowned hardman Iain regularly shops at Lush like a big girly man girl...

IAIN wrote:..

the questions you're asking is quite sensitive data, the age/job thing, so i doubt you'd get many responses...

but i'll answer the others...

If you're uncomfortable posting your age and job, I don't see how it's necessary.

Thanks for the responses so far and keep them coming!

Age: 26
Gender: Female
Occupation: Graphic Artist
Education: BA(hons)

What is your opinion on animal testing?
A lot depends on exactly what is being tested, how the tests are conducted and the conditions that the animals are kept in. For the purposes of medical research I don't really see any other way, testing drugs on animals is far from ideal but if it leads to the development of a drug that will eventually save lives then I see it as a nessasary evil. When it comes to the testing of cosmetics then I'm totally against it and always choose a brand that doesn't conduct animal testing.

Are you concerned in any way that inhumane testing is occurring on these animals; or is it irrelevant to you?
As I've said above, it's a far from ideal situation and I do believe that the animals should be treated as humanely as possible and any discomfort kept to a minimum.

Is it an important factor in the choosing of shampoo, cosmetics, etc. that it has not been used as a test product on animals?
Very important to me, I will always choose cosmetics that I know haven't been teted on animals.

If you’re against it, what kind of alternatives would you suggest; if it doesn’t bother you that their testing shampoo, cosmetics, etc. on animals why not?
We know what chemicals are safe and those that are not now, there's not really all that much need for animal testing in cosmetics but when it comes to medicine I feel that it is needed. If the boffins could come up with a better method then great but there's always going to be unforessn side effects and it's important that the worst of these are ironed out before human trial begin.