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I'm going through the first (& in my opinion best) routine in the accompnaying booklet that came with my Beyond ESP 2 cards.

The routine 3SP by M Murray & P Younghusband has three reveal phases which all build upon each other but I'm concerned with the last phase. If you have this routine I wonder if you can offer any other suggestions for the 3rd phase. Getting the cards to match up upon reveal.

OK, the first match is no problem. The 2nd & 3rd reveals are my worry if the cards don't turn up in the correct order by chance. The out in the manual is to use the Mexican Turnover.
I don't believe this is a hard more to learn & I practised it around 30 times, then did it on my 11 year old son. "Er no way Dad you just ******** the *****"
Mmm, how do I do this. I can't mis-direct because all eyes are on what you are doing as you reveal the card. Any ideas, other outs?

One of the problems I had when leaning the Mexican Turnover was that I wasn't actually using my index finger to flip the card. Make sure your index finger is flipping the card over.

Also, this is one of those moves you can practise while you're watching the T.V. you can just do it over and over again and eventually the knack will come.

Practise, practise, practise & er more practise eh Tomrav

Hi, I'm really pleased you like my cards! Just a little idea that may help, get yourself in the position wherte your top two cards match as per the instructions then ask the spectator to deal his cards out. At this point you would normally deal your cards out but don't do it just yet, alow him to deal his first. In doing this you will be able to spot wether his middle card matches yours if it does great just deal your cards out normaly from the top.

If their middle card is different (in one smooth action) your right fingers pull over the top card to the right so that your left fingers can grip the middle card, pull this card out to theleft and deal it into the left most position. You now have two card is your right hand, drop the bottom one into the middle position with your right hand alow the right hand to continue moving towards the right dropping the original top card into the right most position.

Done in a fluid motion no one should suspect anything after all why should they (No one knows the positions of anyones cards)

I hope this helps!

Kind Regards Michael


P.S. Keep up the practice with the Mexican turnover!

Thanks for the tip Michael, however... (there's always an however in this game )

get yourself in the position wherte your top two cards match

I don't follow, as far as I can understand the instructions there isn't a bit where the top TWO cards match. I can see & do getting into position where my top card matches their top card but not where my two top cards match. Am I mis-reading something?

Would it be acceptable to have them lay there 3 cards out & then as one is mysticaly muttering "Yes I think this one there, this one there etc" lay my cards out in the correct position. Or is this likely to increase the chance of the marked cards being sussed?

I really love this routine, the way all the 5 cards are used but I think my mexican routine is several months off. Rather than stop the trick on Phase 2 is there an alternative ending I could go into?

sorry, perhaps i explained my self wrongly all i meant was that you get in a position where your top card is the same as their top card! If you follow from there it should make sense and avoid the use of the mexican turnover

I personally wouldn't re arange the cards after they have been laid out because people may suspect the cards are marked but then again the markings are well hidden so it mign't hurt to try it with close family/friends to check the reponse!

Another idea which i've used in the past is to make a prediction of where the spectators will place the remaining three utilising the principle from the Free Will effect!

Regards Michael

Does anyone have Symbologic who has Beyond ESP 2 as well. Was wondering if the two products could be tied together so that the final phase of 3SP could lead into Symbologic using the Beyond ESP cards.

I don't currently have Symbologic so am not aware of what the gimmick is but can the trick be done with the Beyond ESP 2 cards or not? If so is there anywhere I can get a manuscript of Symbologic as I really don't need any more ESP cards?

Reasons being is I just ain't up to scratch on a mexican turnover & it's such a shame to have o stop 3SP on the 2nd phase when it could go into a 3rd. Thanks.

Just another thought idea you could use to replace the final stage in the routine. If you have a copy of the free will effect you could use that principle to predict what order the cards are placed in.

Kind Regards Michael

Thanks for the suggestion Celebrity, can you point me towards a link or review of free will, did a search on this site for it but couldn't find anything. Thanks again.

My apologies for the delay in replying, Free Will is actualy reviewed on www.magicbunny.co.uk what your buying here is actually just a principle but a very good one at that.

I have been known to perform this routine with borrowed coins as an impromptu effect and it really dose go down well.

Kind Regards Michael