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Postby MagicalSmithy » Jun 13th, '09, 01:06



Hello again.

I am thinking if you are looking for an entertainer would it be better to take one that has a perofming aret a level/GCSE over one who does not.

Not saying if you do not your rubish.

So anyway I am contemplating going to college to study the performing arts, I can still perform parties and such to put food on the table and in the process can improve my my CV and skills in the area aswell as increase my confidence.

Is there a specific qualification for entertainers or would a normal A level cover the mains.

Where are the best colleges for this if you have any experience.

It has been an idea folding over in my head for a while now.

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Postby TonyB » Jun 13th, '09, 01:26

There are two different questions here. The first thing is that it makes no difference whether you get a performing arts qualification or not - bookers iwll judge you on your experience and ability.
But the second, and more important, point is that people who have had performing arts training are generally a good deal more polished and professional than those who have not had that training. Eventually experience makes up the difference, but it can take years off the process of becoming very good.
If you chose to do a course people based in the UK can advise you which is best. But the other option is to seek that training part-time - through courses, drama societies, Toastmasters Clubs, etc. Either way it's good that you are thinking that way.

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Postby MagicalSmithy » Jun 13th, '09, 01:35

Thank you.

It is not that I want to skip the practice as every waking moment that I was not at the Gym...in class doing homework ect I would be precticing.

The problem with finding clubs and stuff is that they tend to get REALLY expensive, that is why I am thinking of taking advantage of the college system before I have to pay stupid amounts to go back.

My biggest problem is my local college does not believe performing to be a worthwhile thing to pump money into (twonks)

Thanks again Tony.

BTW TB on the Hypnotism I have been reading the basics of hypnotism in Derren's book and so far have used the techniques to cure my fear of heights and sponge balls (shut it :-)) and my nans fear of teenagers, she used to the cross the road and now she does not bat an eye lid (Scary really isn't it.

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Postby IAIN » Jun 13th, '09, 10:00

i think you should go to college...you can always work part-time too, i did...warehouse work is character forming, and will always make you grateful for any other job you'll ever do...

anyway - go to college, plenty of areas to perform, learn something new, and to use that horrible word "network"...bands, clubs, societies...plenty of people who would use you at some point...

you may even be able to set up a small magic society - you never know...

college would be good for you i reckon - some kind of performance art, theatre/stage craft thing...or even see if your local theatre has any groups you could try out and join?

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Postby taffy » Jun 13th, '09, 14:49

I thought you were going to the RAF or something similar to that?

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Postby MagicalSmithy » Jun 13th, '09, 18:22

taffy wrote:I thought you were going to the RAF or something similar to that?


I have tried for the RAF but there is only one career for me in the forces and I already tried a PGAC and only 3 people got through....there where people like arnold schwarzaneggar that did not make it....I will continue going to the gym ect If i go to college but I have to try again by January else I can not enter so I will give it a go.


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Argh I have hcecked my local colleges....Basildon....Celmsford ect but none of them seem to be doing any theatre based courses.

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Postby MagicalSmithy » Jun 19th, '09, 12:30

Good news and bad news.


Hood news my local performing arts colelge is a 10 minute walk from here.



bad news they do not consider stage illusions of any kind performing.....they do not consider verntiloquism performing (my cheeky secret) and they do not consider any kind of comedy act to be performing.

You have to have a history of dance to stand any real chance of getting in and then they charge 5439 pound a year...that is more than uni i think. (well eenrolement fess wtithout accomadation)

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Jun 19th, '09, 16:41

It depends alot on who you are I think, if you're confident and a natural performer then I don't really think that it's needed. If you're a shy, quiet person then some sort of performing arts training would probabaly come in useful.

Why not try your local amature dramatics club, I'm sure that they'd be able to help you out and I know that the one near me does drama classes.

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Postby MagicalSmithy » Jun 19th, '09, 20:30

Thanks for the advice will look into it....

I am a confident person but only because (after reading tricks of the mind) I put confidence into the perspective that if you believe in confidence or motivation it is because you are (in your own sense) unmotivated or unconfident where as the man who is the most motivated and with absolute confidence will rarely use those words as it does not appear a real thing to them..(almost Derrens words)

So is what i look at by putting these words motivation and confidence into what they are and that is simply just words i went from being a shaking wreck who could not publicaly shuffle cards to gettin 6 gigs booked this year so far and having standing ovations.......it really was as simple as forgetting what this "confidence bug" is.

I hope that makes sense.

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Postby taffy » Jun 19th, '09, 22:16

MagicalSmithy wrote:Thanks for the advice will look into it....

I am a confident person but only because (after reading tricks of the mind) I put confidence into the perspective that if you believe in confidence or motivation it is because you are (in your own sense) unmotivated or unconfident where as the man who is the most motivated and with absolute confidence will rarely use those words as it does not appear a real thing to them..(almost Derrens words)

So is what i look at by putting these words motivation and confidence into what they are and that is simply just words i went from being a shaking wreck who could not publicaly shuffle cards to gettin 6 gigs booked this year so far and having standing ovations.......it really was as simple as forgetting what this "confidence bug" is.

I hope that makes sense.


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