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STOPPING SMOKING

Postby Paul Smith » Jul 22nd, '09, 22:58



Hey,
Anybody got any GOOD advice on stopping smoking (not starting isn't an option).
At the end of day 3 now and feeling pretty poor to say the least.

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Postby DenmarkKilo » Jul 22nd, '09, 23:02

Be obsessive about your weight, My mother was ordered to by the doctor, as she's diabetic, and that doesn't help when most people end up having cravings for something sweet and put on a few pounds...

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Re: STOPPING SMOKING

Postby Tomo » Jul 22nd, '09, 23:02

Paul Smith wrote:Hey,
Anybody got any GOOD advice on stopping smoking (not starting isn't an option).
At the end of day 3 now and feeling pretty poor to say the least.

Paul

Day three puts you right in the middle of nicotine withdrawal. Stay strong, keep on not smoking. The frustration will pass and so will the craving. Believe me, it gets easier.

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Postby Mr_Grue » Jul 22nd, '09, 23:11

You have to realise that smoking itself isn't pleasurable, it just stops the craving for a little while. You need to focus on how short the periods are when the craving is at its worse and know that you're only ten or fifteen minutes away from the desire subsiding.

Lastly, don't don't don't light up a cigarette, but should you fall off the wagon, get straight back on again. The defeat isn't in the first cigarette but the second.

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then the only thing left is the method.


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Postby IAIN » Jul 22nd, '09, 23:13

relax, and picture in your mind your lungs blackening and withering for a moment...if you decide to give in, that is your future...

on the plus side, think of the extra money you'll have for magic, and other fun things...and how much longer you'll live to enjoy them...

plus, after 72 hours, the worst will be over, the chemicals will be leaving your body for good soon and you'll be able to taste and smell so many intoxicating things now you have quit...

also, give your hands something to do - reprogramme your hands to reach for the cards rather than the cig box...

infact, put some bridge cards inside your cigarette box if you still have any...

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Postby Wishmaster » Jul 22nd, '09, 23:19

Hypnosis can really help.

Also...

Just remember, cravings last less than a minute at a time. You only have to get through that minute each time they appear.

Break your habits. If you normally go for a smoke after a meal, do something to absorb yourself in immediately after finishing eating instead. Just for those few minutes, it's important to do something different to stop you're Pavlovian response - meal over = have a smoke.

Breadsticks. Every time I had a craving, I grabbed a breadstick and ate one. I was going through boxes of them, but it did help occupy my fingers which were needing to hold a cigarette and they are relatively low fat. It was either those or chocolate!

I was a fairly heavy smoker for over 25yrs, so have a good idea how you feel. I've not touched one for over 2yrs now and wouldn't ever go back to them.

I wish you luck Paul.

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Postby Gary Dickson » Jul 22nd, '09, 23:52

Use patches.

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Postby themagicwand » Jul 22nd, '09, 23:55

I was on 30 a day. My wife gave birth to our little girl and I stopped just like that. Weird thing, the brain.

I also don't see myself as a non-smoker. I just see it as a very long time between cigarettes. I was the kind of person who wouldn't light up in the company of non-smokers and wouldn't have dreamed of smoking in a restaurant etc anyway, so I just see this as one of those kind of situations. I feel like I would be committing a social faux pas if I smoked.

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Postby Mandrake » Jul 23rd, '09, 08:32

On 26th April 2006 in a different thread Mandrake wrote:I quit smoking 4 years ago after 37 years or so on the weed (yes, I know, all that money and potential health damage!) and it’s a straightforward process. Not easy by any means but certainly straightforward. Allen Carr’s book will give you excellent reasons to help quit – not how to quit but the reasons why and he also shows the fallacy of the usual reasons why smokers don’t manage to quit. ‘It’s my only pleasure’ – no, it’s really not very pleasant at all. ‘We all have to die some time’ True but why not after having made love all night to a bevy of beauties rather than in writhing agony as you cough your guts up and almost look forward to the release from the pain of cancer?

There are two aspects to quitting – one is to minimise the dependency on nicotine, the other (equally as hard) is to get away from the habit of smoking. These are two distinct considerations which are individually very hard to overcome and together they’re even harder but it can be done. I used Nicotine Replacement Therapy (NRT) in the form of mint lozenges – patches are fine but you don’t stick a ciggie on your arm, neither do you squirt it up your nose or chew them like gum. The action of taking out the box of lozenges, opening it, selecting one lozenge and placing it the mouth is very close to the habit action of smoking so that part continues without interuption. NRT really does work as long as you are positive about it and are prepared to see it through – 12 weeks is all you need. There are different strengths of lozenge these days so you start with a strong one for 3 weeks, then a lower strength progressively reducing the strength and the amount of times per day you use them. Beware that after about 6 weeks of success the sly Madame Nicotine can give you the idea that you are now OK and jut one puff to prove it won’t do any harm. Trust me – it will! One puff and you’re a smoker again and will need to start over. If this happens, it’s nothing to be ashamed of, just carry on and be determined to take it further this time. After 6 months is also a dangerous time – the urge to try it will be quite strong so keep some NRT handy just in case. It’s very important to reward yourself – you’ll be saving money so spend it on yourself – be selfish, you’re worth it. A fine and expensive meal, a particular CD, a new jacket, or do something which you might not normally do. Make up any silly games you like to keep yourself focussed – I kept a newspaper cutting with a photo of a certain Tory MP who is also on the board of a tobacco firm. He had a large cigar in his fat gob and a smirk on his face. I just figured he was getting all the perks of the job and a huge salary simply because I was handing over cash each day at the tobacconists. Rather than will power I used ‘hate’ power instead. I blamed him for it all and that anger was enough to keep the determination going. Daft but it worked! The pleasing aspect was that during the first year of quitting, I paid for a short holiday in Switzerland using only the money not spent on cigarettes.

Some Doctors will run quit sessions, Boots and other Chemists also run them but if there isn’t one handy, make very good use of your nearest pharmacist. They can be very supportive, may be able to provide free NRT items and will take time to discuss the pros and cons of each type. You can also try a selection of different ones to see which you prefer. NRT is vital and I’d go so far as to say it’s almost impossible to quit by going cold turkey only. Some folks do it that way but using NRT is the easier option and you need all the help you can get. For a few weeks, avoid situations and places where you usually smoke or where others smoke. This means pubs and clubs are probably out for a while. Explain to your family and mates what you’re doing and why – in many cases they will be supportive and avoid smoking when you’re around. It might also give them the idea to quit as well. Share what’s going on with others – I used the Nicotinell forum and exchanged moans and groans with many others – it really does help. Finally, you might have noticed that I refer to quitting rather than giving up. Quit is a sharp decisive word which describes exactly what’s happening, Giving up is a weak and slushy phrase and not at all supportive. In any event, as Allen Carr says , what are you giving up? Nothing, you’re actually gaining an awful lot. I’m acutely aware that it will take only one cigarette for me to be a smoker again but that’s OK, I can just say that yes I used to smoke but I don’t any more, I’ve moved on. If you’re concerned about putting on weight then take no notice. As your system will start to work more efficiently and your dulled sense of taste and smell gets back to normal, you may very well eat more and enjoy it. You can always diet - no worries but don’t try and quit and diet at the same time – failure in both is very likely!

Carr will give you the mental ammo, NRT the chemical support, and your slight change of lifestyle the extra strength to quit. Sorry for such a long sermon but it all worked for me and one or two others so it might do the same for you. Let me know if I can do anything else to help.

I won't wish you the best of luck - you've already quite clearly made the decison to quit which is a huge step in the right direction so I wish you strength and support instead. Now just carry on and quit!


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Postby Ant » Jul 23rd, '09, 13:59

I have never smoked but two things that have worked for people I know is negative association and stopping smoking.

Negative association works on the same basis as that nasty smelling/tasting stuff women put on their nails to stop them biting them. Eventually they associate biting their nails with feeling nauseous and stop doing it as a result. Try dipping the ends of some cigarettes in dog poo or something. For my friend it was mayonnaise.

Stopping smoking worked for my father. He smoked for about 30 years, had several health problems, a triple heart bypass and two heart attacks and he never gave up (stupid I know). In the end he just "stopped", I think this was a major difference to his mind. Giving something up is difficult because it implies you are depriving yourself of something you enjoy, if you just stop doing something it's not such a big deal. So from this viewpoint it's good that you asked how to stop smoking not how to give up...

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Postby MagicalSmithy » Jul 23rd, '09, 15:21

Start Drinking :lol:

Best way is cold turkey.... just get through this bit and bam your over the hill in a car with no breaks and you will be absoltely crave free very soon...

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Postby mrgoat » Jul 23rd, '09, 15:43

I've just passed 3 months tobacco free.

I feel your pain.

I used patches and did as Mandrake suggests.

I'm not adding anything except support here!

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Postby pcwells » Jul 23rd, '09, 15:56

Patches made me feel ill when I was quitting - as did nicotine gum.

My easiest days were the ones when I was distracted with an immersive, time-consuming something, be it a work deadline, hobby, project...whatever.

My other problem was that in all of my failed attempts to quit, I could never imagine myself as a non-smoker - going through my normal day-to-day rotines without a cigarette. That had to change before I could be successful - as did the daily routine itself while I was drying out.

I don't think chemical addiction to nicotine was my biggest problem, though. On my honeymoon, I had been about ten months without a cigarette, and I just decided 'what the hell, I'll treat myself'. And that was me re-hooked for another five years.

I've now been cigarette-free for about seven years, and I don't miss it. That said, there are still days when I feel stressed, and my first thought is to spark up, but that feeling is never strong enough to act on. And I occasionally look at the price of cigarettes these days (having not bought any in years) and almost choke in disbelief. There's no way I'm financing a new smoking habit!!

Don't know if there's any actual help in there, but it is possible, and it is beneficial. I no longer get short of breath quite so easily, and I don't get those 'tingly limbs' any more. They used to scare me witless.

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Postby Mandrake » Jul 23rd, '09, 16:13

Food soon tastes a whole lot better when you quit smoking!

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Postby Mr_Grue » Jul 23rd, '09, 16:28

I forgot the most important thing that helped me. Don't sit there desperately telling yourself you don't want a cigarette, because you do want one. My mantra when quitting and craving was "I want a cigarette but I choose not to have one". It takes some of the pressure off.

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