Begining Coin Magic

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Begining Coin Magic

Postby Jing » Mar 3rd, '05, 20:25



Does anybody know any resources that are good for begining coin magic.
I've just been watching Sankey and Ogawa in Blackpol and it looks quite cool, but really difficult too.

Is Bobo's really all that good?
Anybody not use it?
I've got Daryl's 3 Fly 3 and I want to get, Sankey's Revolutionary Coin Dvd, even though I know that's a little more advanced than beginer.

Anybody know of any other Dvd's or books (I like books)??
Any advice?
Are Half Dollars best to use? Where can I find them?
What british coins can I use?

What about gimmicked coins - They look expensive. IS it best to stick to pure sleight of hand, or are gimmicked coins useful, too? Anybody use gimmicked coins. Do you switch them out afterwards? I'd like to be able to show the coins clean at the end, or even use borrowed ones.

Hope you can help.
Thanks.

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Postby bananafish » Mar 3rd, '05, 22:18

The best resource for begining coin magic is (imho) Ian Kendall's vcd on the subject, it really is a great place to start. He has a great teaching style and covers many of the basics.

I personally would also recommend bobo's just because it is the bible of such things, but the text/illustrations can be a little tedious at times. Still it's always handy to use the book as a reference guide once you have already learnt the moves else where.

Mr. Ammar also has some basic coin dvd's - but I have to admit I haven't seen these.

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Postby magicdiscoman » Mar 3rd, '05, 22:30

armar dvd's are great building blocks for coin magic and are presented in a no nonsense view i highly recomend them.

but i havant seen ian kendles work.

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Postby saxmad » Mar 4th, '05, 00:01

The David Roth videos are excellent too.

Both Roth and Richard Kaufmann have "Encyclopaedic" books on coin magic - expensive but worth it.

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Postby MagicIain » Mar 4th, '05, 07:26

Bobo's book, as mentioned already, really is a bible for coin magic. It can be found cheaply on Amazon, and is well worth having in your collection.

If you have a thorough read of this thread, you'll see that a study guide exists for the book, to help you through it. It helped me, and my coin work is coming along quite nicely.

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Postby Wolflock » Mar 4th, '05, 10:33

David Stone's - "Basic Coin Techniques" is very good for a beginner.

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Postby Hawk » Mar 5th, '05, 08:04

First off all, what a great area to choose to study, coin magic was my best and my most wanted to learn area (Until Cards Came Into Play) However with coin magic try starting with French Drop, and then go on to Georges Old Coin Trick, maybe levitate a coin and then on to the coin bite, i also feel if done in a good order it can make a nice routine because you can use the same sectors coin all the way through

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think "beginner"

Postby kardtrik » Mar 5th, '05, 09:51

We were all beginners at some point.

you asked alot of questions, some that didn't really need answering. Just get started. I feel that Mike Ammar's or David Roth's videos on basic coin magic are excellent places to start off. In fact, I cannot speak highly enough of Mike Ammar's video series--both cards and coins--for beginners. While learning basic sleights, you are also being taught fantastic routines! Routines that the most technically proficient magicians still use.

remember, just because a trick--coin or otherwise--is technically easy, does not mean that it's bad. the effect on the audience is the true indicator of what is good or bad.

I say this to answer one of your questions...you asked about gimmicked coins, and whether or not to use them. The short answer is yes, use them, and please use them well.

the long answer is that there will be "purists" out there who are dead set against using gimmicks of any sort. Ignore these people at all costs. They feel that using a gimmick of any sort is cheating.

Let's face it folks, we're magicians. Cheating is what we do. Anything that you can use to help make a routine more magical and impossible for your audiences, use it.

Beware the gimmicks though. Especially the gimmicked coins. Some of these coins are so well made, and made in such a way as to lead themselves in to their own sort of presentation--always remember that our audiences are not stupid. respect them. Gimmicks can be used so poorly in a routine that they give themselves away, no matter how well they are used. this is because are audiences are smart. there is a line to be drawn as to whaat is possible, and what isn't. Our job is to blur that line for a moment for them and make them feel something that isn't quite right. Improper use of gimmicks can jump right over the line to the impossible side, giving themselves away, so use them wisely.

Also, Bobo's book is absolutely the bible of coin magic. However, I have had my copy for nearly 20 years and get mor euse out of it now than I did when I was a beginner. You can learn many of the nasic sleights, and even some of the more advanced ones, but learning from a more modern teacher, with modern technology, is more fun, and mor quickly rewarding.

My two cents.

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Postby BlackJack » Mar 5th, '05, 11:24

Hi. I have started coin magic with Michael Ammar's Introduction to coin magic DVD. It is great ! I think it is a good idea to start out with a DVD.
I would purchase the J.B. BOBO Modern coin magic if I were any coin magician that did not have it yet :wink:
The David Stone DVD set (basic coin magic 1 & 2) are very good, be careful, the volume 2 is not for beginners !

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