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Hi, i am looking around for the rose gimmick used by David Copperfield in one of his TV specials where he revealed the finger ring from the blooming rose. Anyone knows whether this prop is on sale somewhere ?

Another version I know is 'Rose Inside The Ring' by Petrick, but the shape of the rose is not as beautiful as the one used by DC, as it is more like a ring box instead of a rose.

why not just use a real rose?
Or at least a very good silk one.Then you can just put the ring there.

Do you need a gimick? Could you not just do a simple production and pluck the ring from the rose? Have a look in Bobo, I'm pretty sure that everything that you need should be in there.

Go to Mike Danata's web site at www.mikedanatasmagicstudio.co.uk

Go to shop, click on search and you want Floating Rose by Kevin James. This is the Copperfield routine and it's on at £32.00

dat8962 wrote:Go to Mike Danata's web site at www.mikedanatasmagicstudio.co.uk

Go to shop, click on search and you want Floating Rose by Kevin James. This is the Copperfield routine and it's on at £32.00

nah, not quite the same Dave.

Copperfield, ( and Simon drake too if i recall)
Had a silk rose, that appeared to drop petals, revealing a finger ring in the centre.

however i suppose you could have the ring appear tied to a ribon on a real rose.

thats easy to do, because you could hide a keychain reel within the ribbon.

dat8962 wrote:Go to Mike Danata's web site at www.mikedanatasmagicstudio.co.uk

Go to shop, click on search and you want Floating Rose by Kevin James. This is the Copperfield routine and it's on at £32.00

I believe you have the routines mixed up here... Kevin's Rose did not have the "ring flight" side to it... I know this not just because I've known Kevin forever it would seem but also the fact that my step son used to do Kevin's paper ball and flower routine.

However, you could do a follow-up using the rose and a "ring flight" type effect and believe it or not you probably already have the gimmick needed... I'm certain if you sat down and gave it some thought thumb-thing would pop in your mind. There's been a ring-flight effect on the market for at least 25 years that I'm aware of, that uses this exact method and any borrowed key case, egg, orange... you name it!

You have to remember one other very important thing when it comes to David... he was a pioneer of sorts... the first to use "Creative Editing" and "Camera Perspective" as a method... his manipulation and justification of said trickery far pre-dates Blaine's escape from puberty, and as we all know, he's become one of the biggest examples of how to "enhance" one's magic through broadcast manipulations.

You also have to consider "staging" -- that is to say, setting a routine up for the camera and in some instances, such as this one, the live audience.

I'm not saying that DC used an accomplice when he performed this routine, but if the effect was mechanical he'd have too.

Finally, we come to another reality around magic... MAGICIANS CHEAT!

For an example... if you watch that footage David never shows you the inside of the flower, does he?


So now you know why it's important to study as many different books on magic as you can get your hands on and learn of every possible low down and dirty trick or "methodology" you can, for the sake of screwing with people's heads... especially other magicians who, by their very nature, tend to over-think how something might work.