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Another question! Pencil thru bill...

Postby katrielalex » Mar 2nd, '05, 14:53



There are two effects that I really like the look of:

Just Passin' Thru by Russ Nie...[something]
Misled by Timothy Wenk

Which looks better? Which has an easier setup? Which looks more realistic? Are they both fully examinable or is a switch needed?

Thanks a lot!

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Postby Mandrake » Mar 2nd, '05, 15:47

Check the Reviews - Just Passin Thru was discussed intensively here and Russ himself joined in. As a general rule, it's always worth using the Search function before asking for this kind of information.

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Postby seige » Mar 2nd, '05, 15:53

There are quite extensive reviews on the site, just use the 'search' function...

However, a 'review-ette'...


Just passin' through: Looks good, but has rather a clumsy aesthetic. Not an easy cleanup, but the entire 'JPT' package is worth the money.
Looks great from any front-on angle, and is repeatable.
Skill: 3/5, needs misdirection

Misled: Needs some reasonable misdirection, but the effect in my opinion is much cleaner than JPT. There is an awesome feeling to the effect, and the pencil can IMMEDIATELY be handed out for inspection at the end (with a little bit of improvising). Slightly better angles than JPT, in my experience, and a much more comfortable feeling to the whole presentation. The 'gimmick' is a tad flimsy, however, when compared to JPT.
Skill: 4/5, needs misdirection and handling skills

Verdict? Go for Misled if you want something a bit cleaner. JPT is great though, just looks 'wrong' somehow, mainly due to the odd non-standard gimmicks, whereas Misled looks very, VERY natural.

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Postby Takashikun » Mar 7th, '05, 10:02

Misled is much normal looking than Just Passin' Thru considering the size of the pencil. Just Passin' Thru is great in itself, but in my opinion it triggers the real potential of the trick if performed in a stage/salon setting. Misled's pencil is ordinary but the gimmick is much fragile than the Just' Passin' Thru. I'd recommend getting them both so that you'll be ready for anything!

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Suggestion

Postby S_adamson1 » Mar 7th, '05, 15:35

If you are looking for a very visual penetration that is very similar to misled I would recommend getting a penn through dollar routine i would recommend the stealth pen due to the fact that it is examinable at the end. Misled in my opinion looks great but it requires a bit of sneeky sleights to allow this piece to be completely examinable. The stealth pen gets the same results and in my opinion is much more practical to perform. A far as passing through I dont know to much about it but I have heard that it is a really gimmicked pencil but I cant say so forsure heres a link where many people have reviewd it so you can check it out for yourself. http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=616

If you are jsut wanting a comparison on the two or which one I would buy I would go for misled out of the 2 just because it seems more practical and has a 2 phase routine that can be performed.

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Re: Suggestion

Postby seige » Mar 7th, '05, 16:27

S_adamson1 wrote:If you are looking for a very visual penetration that is very similar to misled I would recommend getting a penn through dollar routine i would recommend the stealth pen due to the fact that it is examinable at the end. Misled in my opinion looks great but it requires a bit of sneeky sleights to allow this piece to be completely examinable. The stealth pen gets the same results and in my opinion is much more practical to perform. A far as passing through I dont know to much about it but I have heard that it is a really gimmicked pencil but I cant say so forsure heres a link where many people have reviewd it so you can check it out for yourself. http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=616

If you are jsut wanting a comparison on the two or which one I would buy I would go for misled out of the 2 just because it seems more practical and has a 2 phase routine that can be performed.


The Stealth Pen and Misled are absolutely dissimilar in their methods, performance and execution. And, the handout item at the end of the Misled routine is actually a genuine, examinable (even keepable) pencil.

I do think you're thinking of something different here, as Stealth is a simple bill penetration, wheras Misled is an altogether different illusion.

I have to ask, S_adamson1, have you actually owned and performed with all the effects you've been talking about on this forum? Or are you just going on what the Penguin Magic site says?

Hmmmm

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Postby katrielalex » Mar 23rd, '05, 15:00

I've gone ahead and bought Misled, and it's well worth the money. The effect is just so clean that people gasp when the pencil goes through the bill. My only regret is that the ripping noise just sounds really fake to me - but then, it's only a minor point.

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Postby seige » Mar 23rd, '05, 15:05

katrielalex wrote:I've gone ahead and bought Misled, and it's well worth the money. The effect is just so clean that people gasp when the pencil goes through the bill. My only regret is that the ripping noise just sounds really fake to me - but then, it's only a minor point.


Ahhh, glorious! Well done!

The ripping sound is absolutely fake in all ways anyway. You know it sounds false, because it IS false.

And bear in mind, the spectator IMMEDIATELY sees that the not is not at all ripped anyway—therefore the ripping is secondary! Don't fret!

A gorgeous effect, and contrary to the belief that the 'props' supplied won't last—mine is still going strong 3 years down the line.

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Postby katrielalex » Mar 23rd, '05, 15:07

A gorgeous effect, and contrary to the belief that the 'props' supplied won't last—mine is still going strong 3 years down the line.


This is what almost drove me to get Just Passing Thru - then I got Misled, and was surprised that everyone was breaking their gimmicks. I mean, it's breakable, but I don't think that it's easy to break - you'd have to be doing something odd, because the routine doesn't contain any parts that put stress on the gimmick.

OK, that sentence was too long.

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