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Hey i've been using a 1 way force deck for an acr with a different card (suit/color) to be signed by the spectator i was wondering, whats a good way to end the routine besides just saying and displaying bluntly at the end of the trick that all the cards are same besides yours? I kinda wanted to do 1 reversed card into the middle of the deck then show the other other cards, but my way to reverse a card shows the faces :s so i cant do that.

maybe try a braue reversal, especially if the selected card is already on top.

or maybe try Sankeys in the hand triumph as a closing part to the routine (not sure which dvd thats on sorry)

if you have a double backed card on the top of the deck all the time, could you not switch this at some point, so your selected card is reversed?
Ive not written that out right. Im ny head i can see it..

Hmm thats a good idea i might try that reverse method then.

Umm ye i don't want to use a gaff card since its not need really for an acr, just need something good to end the routine

since your forcing the card anyway, why not go down the Brainwave route, and have a different coloured back?

or, use a rainbow deck, and have the chosen card a blank backed card?
if you have them sign the chosen card at some point, use that moment to execute a deck switch.

so you start off with a 100% normal deck.The first few moves in your ACR , including the choice of card, being open, and above board. The audience get to see several card faces.
then switch the deck..

i think it would be rather hard to do a acr with a different color backed that's signed card. I'm not sure what u mean by the brainwave route? u mean like dai vernon's BW? Sorry i don't get where ur going with the different color backs? Like how does a acr work with different color backed cards? like the rainbow deck? Do u mean force a card from the rainbow deck then switch to the force deck? like i think that's too obvious that all the card backs are red now while I'm doing an acr.

I would force the card at the start show that the cards are different and get it signed and do the switch to the force deck at that moment. The routine is not long at all like its 3-5 phases if that, i don't show the faces of the other cards in my routine at all. Then i want to show their card in a manner that i will reveal the rest of the cards that are the same besides theirs.

Hi Yano. I think Dale may have meant the brainwave effect - the chosen card being the opposite colour from the rest of the deck - as a sort of kicker to the routine ( i could be wrong though )

A reversed sv***ali could also be used for your routine - this would allow you to have the spectator cut the cards for their selection (which would be diffirent each time - no actual force) and you could show the cards all diffirent or all the same at will.

If you want the selection reversed during your routine, a very simple way would be to have it second from the top as its apparently placed in the centre, show its jumped to the top (DL), turn your hand down for the gl**e, remove the now face down indifferent card and place it on the table. A casual cut will send the reversed selection to the centre of the deck. jim

Like u mean the face is differnt color? cause i do have that i have all 2 spades (black) then the force is the 4 hearts (red).

Sorry kinda dont want any gaffs besides the force deck. Like its meant to be a fast, quick and simple routine that hits hard with the kicker. I don't want to have to do a deck switch at the end as i want it totally inspectable and the sv***ali just wouldnt allow that.

I like the idea for the way to reverse the card thanks alot , just gotta have a good crowd management or they might want to pick the card up and look

A little suggestion:

ACR is an impossible location effect. By switching gears, you will diminish the effect. I would suggest a climax with an even more impossible location - or have the final rise be under more impossible circumstances and leave it at that.

It tends to be stronger if an effect is simple and clear, e.g.: A signed card, no matter where it is placed in the deck, magically returns to the top. That is the effect. Colors changing, etc., is a new effect, which may deprive the spectator of the full impact of the original effect.

Use of a kicker is usually most appropriate when it is pertinent. Something out of left field makes whatever occured previously register in a weakened way, and the result does nothing to underline the original effect. Meanwhile, the new effect might be suprising, but it is presented in a way that muddies the effect, and it too will be weakened.

As a side note, I tend to try to avoid any effect that would leave an audience with the impression that I have a prepared, or "trick" deck. This discovery could leave a strong impression that can add additional skepticism to all of your effects. There are, of course, exceptions to every rule, but I don't think ACR is one of them.

theres nothing wrong with the normal routine but there's definitely ways to improve an acr, for example cyril's ending. I like to be creative abit and see wot works and wot doesn't.

Shufton wrote:A little suggestion:

ACR is an impossible location effect. By switching gears, you will diminish the effect. I would suggest a climax with an even more impossible location - or have the final rise be under more impossible circumstances and leave it at that.

It tends to be stronger if an effect is simple and clear, e.g.: A signed card, no matter where it is placed in the deck, magically returns to the top. That is the effect. Colors changing, etc., is a new effect, which may deprive the spectator of the full impact of the original effect.

Use of a kicker is usually most appropriate when it is pertinent. Something out of left field makes whatever occured previously register in a weakened way, and the result does nothing to underline the original effect. Meanwhile, the new effect might be suprising, but it is presented in a way that muddies the effect, and it too will be weakened.

As a side note, I tend to try to avoid any effect that would leave an audience with the impression that I have a prepared, or "trick" deck. This discovery could leave a strong impression that can add additional skepticism to all of your effects. There are, of course, exceptions to every rule, but I don't think ACR is one of them.

Hi Shufton,

I agree 100% with your post and have mentioned this sort of thinking elsewhere on the forum (funny enough it was another ACR thread).

It seems to be the norm nowadays (especially with the young guys) to add kickers of sorts to their routines, sometimes there is even a kicker to the kicker ! I thought about mentioning my thoughts on this thread but i also consider the expresion of magic to be a very personal thing. As such it should be performed according to the individuals own theories and ideas. It would be unfair to say that because i wouldnt do something a certain way that no one else should, that is up to the individual.

Personally i think an ambitious card routine should only consist of the card moving through the deck, be it to the top, bottom or wherever. To me anything else is a bit of a left turn. However, if someone wishes to add a kicker to their routine and can make it work then so be it, its just not the way id do it. But as ive said this is only my opinion jim

He is kind of making it hard for himself, with this presentation. I think if it were me, what i would do, is use a one way deck . No Different card.. I would have it selected, and then perform 2, or 3 stages of the acr. Remember,

THE LAY PUBLIC KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT THANKS TO TELEVISION.


i would then spread the deck, and show them that its easy when all the cards are alike.
Then.. I would have themsign a card .

then perform JUST ONE acr move, bringing the signed card to the top as the kicker.

Why not make it quite simple, while you're talking to them and they're quite impressed, have their card on top and do an Ego or Cardini so their card in on the bottom face up. Swing cut and BANG! In the middle face down and different... Easy.