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Yaniv Deautsch wrote:Mentalism is impromptu and propless.
If it isn't, it isn't mentalism.

OK then.... what am I thinking?

Yaniv Deautsch wrote:Mentalism is impromptu and propless.
If it isn't, it isn't mentalism.

Nonsense. If it were, by definition, impromptu then there would be (and would have been) no such thing as stage and televised shows by the likes of Annemann, Brown, Cassidy, Hilford etc etc etc.

If it were propless then all the devices known to mentalists (which I will not list here) would not exist, which they most certainly do. Ask Iain Dunford - he owns most of them

just got Proximity today

You can say that you disagree with me but just saying "nonsense" doesn't mean that what I said is nonsense.
It just means that you have disrespect for another man's opinion.
The fact the gimmicks exist doesn't disprove me opinion.
It only shows that people prefer the lazy way to accomplish their magic, and in my opinion, if you use special props you aren't perform mentalism.

yaniv - your statement does discount things like gimmicked envelopes, swami, and a whole lot of other things...i know you can achieve a lot with muscle-reading and similar...but come on...

Yaniv Deautsch wrote:You can say that you disagree with me but just saying "nonsense" doesn't mean that what I said is nonsense.

Luckily I did not just say "nonsense". I added an argument, details of which you have not addressed.

By the way: Have we met before?

You're thinking like a magician. The thing with mentalist props and gimmicks is that they DON'T look like props or gimmicks. They look like regular things that pretty much EVERYBODY has lying around the house. Thus removing the suspicion from them.

Magicians are the ones who tend to have props and gimmicks that often times look way too obvious.

I think what you're describing there is naked mentalism. To steal a term from a bloke whose books I've done little more than leaf through. So I might be wrong

If you want something that might use a few bits (NOT props, mind you), get your hands on anything ever written by Rick Maue.

Actually, Jack Kent Tillar published a manuscript under the title The Naked Mentalist years before.