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ok so i have a haunted deck, know the secret ect. but i have noticed most magicians do what i beileve is the same trick but put the deck on the floor or a table? im wondering how do you do this? is this still a haunted deck trick? also is it caplerable of replacing the gimmick with a better one that bycycle provide? mine is very noticable...thanks

hey mate welcome to tm:) that version of haunted deck is if i recall with IT

Bycicle dont make these. Someone else has taken a deck and made them up.
now, you say that the gaff is visible.
That's more down to handling than construction, as Its supposed to run along the arm.

as to the other version your reffering too, yes Its a slightly different effect, in that the cards may be borrowed.

As it is a dealers item, im afraid It's quite unlikly that people on here will discuss it.

If they do.. well, IT will be realy spook y.

hey thanks alot guys for the feedback, yeah i understand the gimmick i did buy the deck about a year ago. i am aware fo how you handle it just the gimmick they use is thicker than other ones i have that use the same item like distortion by theory 11. i understand how hard the subject is to talk about,which sucks becasue we should be allowed to be more open to it im just intrested in where i can learn the table version of this effect thats all.

Killahbscs wrote: i understand how hard the subject is to talk about,which sucks becasue we should be allowed to be more open to it im just intrested in where i can learn the table version of this effect thats all.

Its because the 'general public' can read this section, so we have to be careful about what is said, ie no exposure. Check out products by Yigal Mesika and your questions will be answered

jim

Off the top of my head I can think of about 8 versions of the haunted deck. All the same effect using different methods and thereby making slight changes such as having the effect done in the hand, to done in the spectators hand, to placing the deck on the floor two feet away. Some you are attached too, others not so much.

I'm pretty sure I know which version you have because you mentioned the gimmick is a bit thick. So if my assumption is correct you do have several limitations with that method. But it is still a great effect.

The grass however is always greener. Imagine you had one of the other versions. Then you saw a performer perform the effect you already own. Chances are you would be asking the same question you are now, only in reverse. The point being doesn't matter which version you have its how well you perform it. If you disagree with me that is fine. All I ask is you remember this post because one of these days you will find that I am correct.

ok, wel as far as i was aware there was only one version, i assumed. which i felt after knowing the secret and the method was a little disapointed. its a great effect but i think the table version looks cleaner as it is not even in your hand. i understand where you come from but its just i would like to know how to perform it a diffrent way, or a few ways. ive seen a few and its quite common so i was just thinking people might know?

bmat wrote:Off the top of my head I can think of about 8 versions of the haunted deck.

At least! There are many ways to achieve this effect, you can do it without any gimmicks at all, but it can be hit and miss.

Like everyone else says, look up Yigal Mesika. ITs my favorite way of performing the haunted deck.

The haunted deck you may be thinking of could be Spooked by Nicholas Einhorn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CX00QUY9ck

i did kind of sugest that. Read my post.

I just thought that by naming the effect and the originator of it that it might help if someone wished to purchase it.

ok that spooked one just looks like the tarantular version. simular but whats the table version where the hands are either side of the pack? so its closer than a lfoor version. thanks

Killahbscs wrote:ok, wel as far as i was aware there was only one version, i assumed. which i felt after knowing the secret and the method was a little disapointed. its a great effect but i think the table version looks cleaner as it is not even in your hand. i understand where you come from but its just i would like to know how to perform it a diffrent way, or a few ways. ive seen a few and its quite common so i was just thinking people might know?

It is a very rare case where the secret and method (one and the same) is not disapointing. Some of the Tenyo workings are genius and it is the mechanics that fascinate me. But over all method is really disapointing. The trick is to get over that disapointment and concentrate on performance. Remember the audience doesn't know how its done so the only way to disapoint them is poor performance.

And as an aside, it is quite rare to find an effect that has only one version. After all there are only about 7 things you can do in magic, that may not be exact but I can't work it out in my head right now. In any case everything else is a variation on theme.