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Aces routine by Chris Croydon

Postby Chris_Favoriten » Feb 5th, '10, 14:29



Hi Folks,
Ace of hearts is left: 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVzy44issz8

Have not been on here for a while, please excuse,
hope you enjoy my new vid, thanks for viewing,

Credit goes to Dai Vernon, Heinz Bonzina, Thomas Hierling, and last but not least Pat Leonard, masters of the trade, who I came across by books or meet in person.

Cheerio and greets from Vienna, still cold and wet,

Chris

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Postby cymru1991 » Feb 17th, '10, 23:58

I liked it. If I were to be critical, I'd say that your counts need work on to A) speed them up and B) to make them more fluid. I had an issue with your optical count at the end of the routine but the foundations are there. All in all I liked it :D

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Postby jim ferguson » Feb 18th, '10, 00:15

cymru1991 wrote:I liked it. If I were to be critical, I'd say that your counts need work on to A) speed them up and B) to make them more fluid.
    I disagree (well i disagree with A, i agree with B). I think the Elmsley and similar counts tend to be done too fast, generally speaking. The key is not speed, but rythm. It should look fluid and smooth, not too fast, yet not too slow either. I thought at times the counts were a little rushed in my opinion.
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Postby cymru1991 » Feb 18th, '10, 00:17

jim ferguson wrote: I think the Elmsley and similar counts tend to be done too fast, generally speaking. The key is not speed, but rythm. It should look fluid and smooth, not too fast, yet not too slow either. I thought at times it was a little rushed in my opinion.
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I stand corrected. :)

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Postby jim ferguson » Feb 18th, '10, 00:19

Was Chris actually looking for a critique, or just showing the routine :)
    I liked it anyway :)
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Postby jim ferguson » Feb 18th, '10, 00:22

cymru1991 wrote:I stand corrected. :)
    Not at all, it is only my opinion and by no means right or wrong. Magic would be very boring if we all did everything the same way :wink:
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Postby Renato » Feb 18th, '10, 01:49

Jim's comments about the Elsmely are spot on; the slower the count is (within reason, of course), the more deceptive it is. Too fast and it's hard to tell what's going on - it's quite conceivable that you could have miscounted the cards in some way. The beauty of the count is that, done fluidly, it really does look as if you reverse counted all four cards - there's no need to rush.

So yes, the count is a little too fast. Also, what's with the extreme buckling you make each time you Elmsley? It's quite distracting, a little suspicious-looking and needlessly damages the cards.

Other than that, it's a nice little routine - just slow down a little, and try fine-tuning your Elmsley.

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Postby Chris_Favoriten » Feb 18th, '10, 21:24

Dear members of TK who commented on this little routine,

Thank you for your viewing and the valuable analyses, comments on the speed of my Emsley was most valuable. That count is what I have to work on still, next to at times slightly sloppy handling and rather tense buckling. Total control by the four fingers (pinky to index) of the cards is tensing up the view. Also some hesitation, since I was improvising, can be detected.

Comments how other magicians perceive live uncut self recordings helps me a lot as anyone, I suppose, who wants to clarify his own selfperception via camara. Also here I at times blink, like many beginners exercising in front of the mirror.

Thanks again for comments :D they are very much appreciated

CC

PS: by the way, ;) these playing cards are available at CC in Vienna

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