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I need help with the classic palm, I hope I'm not giving too much away....but basically, when I first learnt this trick, I was doing it incorrectly, or so I believe, because the coin was placed too high up and I wasn't using the correct muscles, however, I could get in to this position with the proper technique very easily, but my hand looked too unnatural. Now I have it in the right position using the proper muscles, and the actual palming is much easier, but I can't get into this position at all, not even really slowly. When I mean I can't get into it, I actually can't get into it and I haven't done so after trying for the whole of yesterday, not even once.

I would post pictures of where I am placing it, but I don't want to "give anything away" even though I think there is not much to give away, its better to be safe. Also, I own JB Bobo's Moder Coin Magic and Michael Anmar's DVD on Basic Coin magic.

Thanks in advance for your help

If you can, by this video, you can lern it from there....and alot of more

Oz Pearlman - Born To Perform Card Magic

I think he means coins ...

Kati

actualy thers no real place thats correct for the classic just so long as you can wiggle your fingers so its not held by the pinky crease.
try placing the coin at the base of the thumb crease and tip it onto your other hand do this a few times then try to do the same but retain the coin.
when you can do this and wave your fingers over your other hand then your in the right place for you, when placing the coin into classic some people start on fingertip rest ala spider man shooting a web and some are more pinky end if you get my drift.

personaly mine is almost held by the pinky pad because i have long fingers and short spade like palms which is great for the spider vanish.

Just while were on the topic of palming coins, I'm in France at the moment I've been experimenting with Euros and Cents and the biggest coin they have is the Two Euro coin which is about the same size as a 10p. I struggle to classic palm a 10p - I prefer to use 2 pound coins and 50ps so if Britain gets the Euro, people like me are going to have trouble.

I'll guess it means that I have to do more practise with smaller coins then.

Just something to be aware of. The fact that I have particularly small hands doesn't help though.

Tom Ravalde

Can I post images of my palmed coin and show you the two ways in which I can do it?

tomrav its a question of training the mussles starting big and getting smaller progressivly.

opera you can mail them to me and i will see what i can help you with you could also post them in the suport and tips section if its working.

One thing I did when I started out was get a cap off a beer bottle. The crimped on sort you need a bottle opener to remove.
With the crimped jagged edges it digs into your hand and is incredibly easy to palm. It helped quite a bit getting used to the feeling of where an object should be placed to allow me natural hand and finger movements. The step up to a coin etc. isn’t that hard afterwards (or wasn’t in my case)
Might be worth a try.

David devant has some interesting thoughts on the subject of palming.
In short he concludes that, no man can learn how to palm from a book, since all hands are different.
The secret to palming a coin, is to hold it in a way that your hand is relaxed, and looks natural. The big mistake people make in trying to learn how to clasic palm, is in trying to grip it.
My tip on getting a natural look, is to try and pick up a pint glass, or a drinks can with the coin in place. This tip has hellped many people. The glass has an added advantage, as you can see what the coin does in the hand.
One thing though. You called the clasic palm a trick. This, and every other move known to magicians is not a trick. It is an aid to performing an effect.

another tip is to place your hand on the table as if you were pretending to be a spider and place the coin in from behind be a small movment of you thumb you will find the spot were you classic palm.

the problem with describing the action as " like a spider", is that it might encorage the claw effect, so many people get through bad palming practice.

good point should have added spider like a bridge in snooker and once palmed try walking back and forth with your fingers.