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Does anyone know were i can find a reference to the trick will the jacks match?

Ideally it needs to explain the trick.

Thanks

Explain the effect! I know of similar named tricks but not sure if they are the same? Lots of tricks get called different names by different people....

the trick is were you have a set of cards and 2 Jokers. The cards are seperated into two piles. The spectator shuffles the cards by spelling the words Will the Jacks Match and chooses which card to put on the bottom of the sellected pile for each letter. Then pairs o cards are put on the table, and all the [pairs are different apart from the Jacks being in the same set of 2 cards

This is a very easy trick but has a big impact on the right audience! I first saw it on a Paul Daniels magic show (he called it....Let Paul Daniels Solve It) and used ESP cards!

There is a version where you take ordinary cards and tear them in half and do the trick where the two halfs match after mixing them up, but it't the same trick, I sussed it out from the Paul Daniels magic show.

It's in print somewhere but I am not sure how I can tell you how it's done as that would be giving away the secret and that's not what we are about on this forum.

Can anyone advise me on this please!!!

technically jbmagic could tell gochos where to find the book/manuscript BUT NOT tell him how it was done...

its all in the forum rules!

the_mog wrote:technically jbmagic could tell gochos where to find the book/manuscript BUT NOT tell him how it was done...

its all in the forum rules!

Thanks the_mog, but surely if I give gochos a direct link to a website with the instructions then I am giving away the secret even if that link is available to the general public?

fair enough..then dont give it to him, i thought it was a manuscript or book that the effect was in

the_mog wrote:fair enough..then dont give it to him, i thought it was a manuscript or book that the effect was in

I will take your advice, as I don't know where this effect is written up in a book or DVD etc!

Therefore I am sorry gochos, I can't give you the secret or even where it's located on the web but I will say it is not too difficult to figure out this trick as it's not a difficult trick to understand and it is on the web somewhere under simple tricks you can do or something similar, so I would suggest you get digging!

Will the Jacks match is a very old trick. Mike Ammar has a version with Business Cards on Business Card Miracles. There is a version described in Paul Daniels Adult Magic. The basic effect is as you decribed.

However, there is a version with a kicker ending where all of the packets end up matching so that not only does the Jack packet match but all the other cards match as well. This turns the effect into a kind of Wild Card effect. As you are well aware, I believe this ending to be original with myself and have never found another reference to it in print or otherwise despite checking. I have been performing this version of the effect for the last 10 years after being inspired my the aforementioned Adult Magic.

I am surprised you didn't ask me directly about this Gochos.

Craig

Coin Lover wrote:I am surprised you didn't ask me directly about this Gochos.

How would he know to ask you?

Kati

Coin Lover wrote:Will the Jacks match is a very old trick. Mike Ammar has a version with Business Cards on Business Card Miracles. There is a version described in Paul Daniels Adult Magic. The basic effect is as you decribed.

Yes it is a very old trick and the priciple is even older so I am not surprised that Michael Ammar has a version out somewhere......but didn't know you were on first name terms with Mike, Craig!!!

However, there is a version with a kicker ending where all of the packets end up matching so that not only does the Jack packet match but all the other cards match as well.

This is exactly the version used on the Paul Daniels magic show but with ESP cards....all the pairs of cards match!

This turns the effect into a kind of Wild Card effect.

Don't mean to be rude, but this effect is nothing like a Wild Card effect. Wild Card is where all the cards change to the same as a.......Wild Card, this effect is where all the pairs match each other not a single card or wild card.

As you are well aware, I believe this ending to be original with myself and have never found another reference to it in print or otherwise despite checking.

As I stated the trick was used on a Paul Daniels Magic Show, ok it was using ESP cards but it is the same trick where all the pairs match, I am sure if Paul Daniels was using it the principle will be an tried and tested principle and will be donkeys old, although I am unsure where it is in print I am sure it will be somewhere or are you suggesting that Paul Daniels has stolen your trick!!

I am surprised you didn't ask me directly about this Gochos.

I was wondering how Gochos was supposed to know too!

Don't mean to be rude, but this effect is nothing like a Wild Card effect. Wild Card is where all the cards change to the same as a.......Wild Card, this effect is where all the pairs match each other not a single card or wild card.

I know what Wild Card is. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. The effect I meant was that there are 2 Jacks that are identical and 8 other indifferent cards. In the effect I described The 2 Jacks match up and then as a kicker ending all the other cards are turned over and are the same card (for example 8 of Clubs). Sorry if I was not clear

This is exactly the version used on the Paul Daniels magic show but with ESP cards....all the pairs of cards match!

To use this example, the effect would be that at the end all the cards would be the square (for example)

I was wondering how Gochos was supposed to know too!

We know each other and he has my phone number and even saw me last week. He has also seen me perform this effect!!!!

Craig

Sorry Craig,

I know it's very difficult on a email or post on a forum to get across your point no matter how hard you try and you have tried very hard and I am right there with you! because emotions are difficult to show online or on text etc!

I know you have your heart in the right place and you are a nice guy but I think I am too, although I may be a little crazy at times! 22 yrs in the Royal Marines messed with my mind enough to make me crazy enough for anyone!

Joking aside, Craig, I realise you are talking about a different effect and I personally don't want to get into any arguements with anyone but reading the post again I can see that you do obviously know him and there was no offence meant!

I always try to be helpful when I can to anyone and I hope you didn't take any offence by my silly sense of humour!

But even though I joke around, I am very wary that magic is an art and there are lots of people out there who want to be David Blaine or Derren Brown righ now, without putting the work into learing what it takes to get there.

All I will say is that I am very passionate about this art we call magic and you can never stop learning, I am 49, so not got much learning time left have I, but I never stop trying....!

First let me just say, I wasn’t looking for the secret of the effect, just a reference. Asking for a reference doesn’t mean I am looking for the secret. I am basically trying to find some originality in the effect. I’m finding it fascinating at the moment that some tricks we are using nowadays actually date back to the 17 Century. Very interesting indeed.

I didn't say you were looking for the method mate, just trying to help with your question.

I don't think this is as old as the 17th century (unless Paul Daniels really is that old ). However, I could be wrong. I know the basic effect (not the kicker I was talking about) can be done with playing cards, business cards and even pieces of paper so it's possible. Perhaps you could contact Paul Daniels and see if he knows anything?

Craig