Jumping Gemmini

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Jumping Gemmini

Postby Mark Waddington » Jun 8th, '10, 13:17



Hi Guys,

Just a quick question, does anyone know which book contains the Jumping Gemmini Routine? Not sure who its by so not sure where to start!


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Postby Thomas Heine » Jun 8th, '10, 13:33

Darwin Ortiz at the Card Table (1988, p. 141)

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Postby Cerulean » Jun 8th, '10, 18:38

As far as I'm concerned, the trick does not need to be taught (you can see how it's done after one performance on youtube or something...). Anyway, it's just a load of DLs and TLs and related moves... very difficult to perform right in front of the spectator without them catching in. Not recommended, in my opinion.

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Postby Mark Waddington » Jun 8th, '10, 19:10

Cerulean wrote:it's just a load of DLs and TLs and related moves... very difficult to perform right in front of the spectator without them catching in. Not recommended, in my opinion.



Not if your DL's and TL's are being performed right. Pretty much my entire working card repertoire is based on DL's and TL's and nobody has ever caught on!

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Postby bmat » Jun 8th, '10, 20:01

If your DL suck then it is going to be difficult. Otherwise it is a wonderful effect, not difficult to perform and highly recomended.

Take my advice, unless you are watching classic acts or professional magicians on youtube then I certainly wouldn't judge an effect by a youtube performance.

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Postby Thomas Heine » Jun 8th, '10, 20:19

@Mark Waddington

You're welcome, ...

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Postby Mark Waddington » Jun 8th, '10, 20:23

Sorry, my appologies

Thankyou for the reference point

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Postby Thomas Heine » Jun 8th, '10, 20:34

Anytime! 8)

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Postby Mark Williams » Jun 10th, '10, 03:05

Earl Nelson has a similar effect which looks identical to Jumping Gemini. It's called "The Ultimate Packet Trick" It was originally printed in his Workbook lecture notes, yet it can be found along with other gems, on his Lost Tapes Volume Two DVD.


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Postby Cerulean » Jun 10th, '10, 19:37

Mark Waddington wrote:
Cerulean wrote:it's just a load of DLs and TLs and related moves... very difficult to perform right in front of the spectator without them catching in. Not recommended, in my opinion.



Not if your DL's and TL's are being performed right. Pretty much my entire working card repertoire is based on DL's and TL's and nobody has ever caught on!


Different school of thought here. I dislike any magic trick that is over reliant on DLs. I will have 1 or 2 in a routine max. In my opinion, anyone with a shallow knowledge of magic can guess what is going on with DLs. I guess your DLs must be really good if nobody is catching on.

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Postby lukeclough » Jun 11th, '10, 23:36

I think if your DL or even TL is good enough, and you know how to misdirect and manage your audience, there is no problem having as many as you like. Before we all got into magic we would have been stumped watching tricks involving them after all.

And having seen Mark's DL, I can say it is very good!! :D

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Postby bmat » Jun 13th, '10, 03:24

lukeclough wrote:I think if your DL or even TL is good enough, and you know how to misdirect and manage your audience, there is no problem having as many as you like. Before we all got into magic we would have been stumped watching tricks involving them after all.

And having seen Mark's DL, I can say it is very good!! :D


Exactly, once again it is all about presentation. It is amazing how many times I've heard people tell me they don't like effects that have such and such a move because they are too obvious. Then I turn around and show them an effect, or a dvd of somebody doing an effect that uses the move over again and completely stumps the naysayer. Done right they are not obvious. Done right you can still amaze and amuse magicians who have a really deep knowledge of magic, it is, in many cases what seperates the men from the boys, the performers from the arm chair performers, the experienced from the novice, I could go on but I think the points been made.

In ten years, you will agree with me.

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Postby Paul Gordon » Jun 13th, '10, 06:11

Hi Mark & Luke,

I have a few routines of this nature in my books; books I think(?) you've already got.

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