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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knHkK0gEiPI

There you go guys,

Let me have it both barrels

This is not as i would present to an audience but any words of wisdom are, as always, gratefully received!

Alec

You know what, I've never used this trick from Wilson's. I quite like the end result, might have to give it a go.

When you cut the king into the deck at the end, its a little obvious that you are cutting it to the middle. Might just be the camera angle though, if I was sat opposite you at a table, make sure to direct attention to the two black aces, then cut the king to the middle. That way, it would have a greater impact when it seemingly just appears half a deck away from where you put it.

Again though, I think I only really noticed that so much because the of the angle the camera is at, from a regular spec's viewpoint its probably not an issue.

Good old Mark Wilson's. It was my first book on magic and there's still things in there I've never seen before

Matthius88 wrote:
When you cut the king into the deck at the end, its a little obvious that you are cutting it to the middle. Might just be the camera angle though, if I was sat opposite you at a table, make sure to direct attention to the two black aces, then cut the king to the middle.

Yeah, its pretty hard to make eye contact with the angle the camera is at.

As its performed there, its sort of similar to someone burning me but in a real situation i would be using misdirection as i do the cut. Its hard to replicate that on camera!

Give the trick a go, i think its fantastic and there is also scope to plant any card you like as their selection!!

Alec

kobain wrote:

Matthius88 wrote:
When you cut the king into the deck at the end, its a little obvious that you are cutting it to the middle. Might just be the camera angle though, if I was sat opposite you at a table, make sure to direct attention to the two black aces, then cut the king to the middle.

Yeah, its pretty hard to make eye contact with the angle the camera is at.

As its performed there, its sort of similar to someone burning me but in a real situation i would be using misdirection as i do the cut. Its hard to replicate that on camera!

Give the trick a go, i think its fantastic and there is also scope to plant any card you like as their selection!!

Alec

Yeah I think I'll give this a go tomorrow, I don't currently have a sandwhich effect so this will make a nice addition to my routine.

What is the trick called? Or at least which page is it on?

Mark Wilson's is a big book

i think its a nice effect.

Its called sandwiched aces and in my edition its page 92.

Enjoy!

Being an absolute lover of all things cardy, someone who has practiced card magic for 6 years and watched it for many more, I can safely say...excellent choice of effect. I've always loved this one.

The constructive criticisms I can give you can be summed up in one word...smoothness.

Smoothness and economy of motion are so important. Any unnesecary fiddling with the deck looks odd and clutters the effect, as well as awkward turn overs.
For example, when you need to obtain a break under one card, just use one hand to do it. Push over with the thumb and then pull it over the little finger.

Practice the effect dozens of times in front of the camera and mirror and see where you touch the deck without a reason(in the spectators eyes) and then eliminate it on the next video. Eventually you'll fine tune the effect until not only is it incredible, but it's smooth for you.

Watch any expert close up magician and you'll notice that they aren't really doing anything. They know the effect so well that is becomes prt of them and it just flows...that only comes with painful amounts of going over and over the routine!

Other than that, excellent choice of effect and technically it was alright.

Just work on the smoothness of the whole thing.

Oh and finally...when I perform this, I don't make a big deal of trying to hide the cut of the deck at the end.

I pick up the black aces suspiciously and put them on the table and say...the card has vanished.

I look up at the spectators and say something along the lines of..."no really..."

...cut the deck to the table and openly spread the black aces and show them to be clean...

Lenoir wrote:Being an absolute lover of all things cardy, someone who has practiced card magic for 6 years and watched it for many more, I can safely say...excellent choice of effect. I've always loved this one.

The constructive criticisms I can give you can be summed up in one word...smoothness.

Smoothness and economy of motion are so important. Any unnesecary fiddling with the deck looks odd and clutters the effect, as well as awkward turn overs.
For example, when you need to obtain a break under one card, just use one hand to do it. Push over with the thumb and then pull it over the little finger.

Practice the effect dozens of times in front of the camera and mirror and see where you touch the deck without a reason(in the spectators eyes) and then eliminate it on the next video. Eventually you'll fine tune the effect until not only is it incredible, but it's smooth for you.

Watch any expert close up magician and you'll notice that they aren't really doing anything. They know the effect so well that is becomes prt of them and it just flows...that only comes with painful amounts of going over and over the routine!

Other than that, excellent choice of effect and technically it was alright.

Just work on the smoothness of the whole thing.

Oh and finally...when I perform this, I don't make a big deal of trying to hide the cut of the deck at the end.

I pick up the black aces suspiciously and put them on the table and say...the card has vanished.

I look up at the spectators and say something along the lines of..."no really..."

...cut the deck to the table and openly spread the black aces and show them to be clean...

what he said.

Personally, I'd put the red aces in the deck and take them out in front of the spectator: 'for this trick, we need two black aces' whilst upjogging them. Just a psychological thing to suggest there is no set up.

kobain wrote:i think its a nice effect.

Its called sandwiched aces and in my edition its page 92.

Enjoy!

Just spent a few hours going over it, it's a great little trick. I'm almost ashamed I didn't pick this one up the first time I read through the card section.

Thanks for putting me on to it!

It really is an excellent effect, and one I too perform quite regularly. I have a few thoughts you might like to consider!

The longer those Aces are face-down on the table, the more likely it is that your Participant will wonder "what were those cards?" or "are those still the black Aces?" Given how important it is that your Participant is sure that their card is sandwiched between the two black Aces I like a slightly restructured approach...

...which is to have a card selected, signed and left face-up on the table, and then introduce the two black Aces, turning them face-down and sliding the first one beneath the selection and the second one on top. The Aces should be square, but the selection up-jogged. This allows you to pick the sandwich up off the table and, applying just enough pressure to keep the Aces squared, turn your hand palm-down to flash the Ace of Spades at the face of the packet. This provides a nice, visual reminder as to the whereabouts of the selection.

Drop the packet on top of the deck, push the out-jogged selection flush with the deck and proceed from there!

When it comes to cutting the deck, I make the cut after having just dropped the black Aces onto the table. I swing cut the upper half into my right hand and then, almost as an afterthought, interrupt this action by using my left hand (holding the lower half of the deck) to gesture to the tabled Aces as I say something like "Your card really is gone, it's not hiding on the back of one of these chaps" as I complete the cut and set the deck aside, attention constantly on the tabled Aces. Then I pick them up and flash the backs, give them a flick, that kind of thing, before having my Participant spread the deck across the table.

Some really fantastic advice and things ill certainly take on board.

One comment really stood out to me tho!

Bmat......take a bow!! It must be rare to be given such valuable advice

Alec

Are you in the restricted area?

I'll post a video of my handling if you are.

Wow, thanks for the video, had completely overlooked the effect before, and just spent a while learning it. It is a great effect that I am now going to use as soon as it's ready.

I agree with everyone else on this. This has always been one of my favourite effects in the book. Ive tried many sandwich type effects through the years and this can stand with the best of them.

I perform it very similar to Renato by having the card selected first and left face-up on the table. The first ace is shown, turned face down and placed in front of me (i will usually 'flash' the ace as its tabled). The second ace is shown, turned face down and thumbed to the right in preperation to be taken by the right hand, but before it is taken i reach over and place the face-up selection on top of the face down ace overlaping to the right. The second ace is then placed on top of the selection.

On the cut, i never try to hide this. A little misdirection may be advantagous but it is far from neccesary. Some time ago i toyed with using a turn over pass to show that the selection was neither at the top or bottom of the deck - it added nothing to the routine. A simple cut on the relaxation or 'off beat' is all thats required.

As many have already said just keep working on getting it down smooth, it is a great effect. well done for posting your video.

All the best, jim